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Old September 26th, 2019, 04:04 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I appreciate that the mini is large (which justifies the 6 life) but I don't see anything to justify the 4 defense. to review Agrith-Naar.

Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.

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Note that the auto-destroy is friendlies only.
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Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.
He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Agrith-Naar looks like he'd be fun to play with the Acolytes, and Sustained by Blood is a thematic ability for that faction. I do think that it's more likely to just be a timer on him, though, since 5 turns to fly around with Quadruple Attack is probably all that he needs, but the option of sacrificing a cultist to prolong his stay can be tactically interesting.

Most of my concerns are related to his effectiveness when being summoned into the fray and bonding with the Acolytes, which you've noted before isn't as problematic as it appears. I'm willing to test it. to review Agrith-Naar.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 05:29 PM
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He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.
Why can't he destroy an opponent's figure?

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Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.
He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.
Why can't he destroy an opponent's figure?
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Before taking a turn with Agrith-Naar, you must choose a friendly squad figure adjacent to Agrith-Naar and destroy it. If a squad figure was not destroyed by Sustained by Blood, Agrith-Naar receives 1 wound. Sustained by Blood cannot be used on Undead or Soulborg.
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Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.
He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.
Why can't he destroy an opponent's figure?
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Before taking a turn with Agrith-Naar, you must choose a friendly squad figure adjacent to Agrith-Naar and destroy it. If a squad figure was not destroyed by Sustained by Blood, Agrith-Naar receives 1 wound. Sustained by Blood cannot be used on Undead or Soulborg.
I wonder if caps was calling the theme into question here. Why would Angry Nani care who he’s eating to sustain him?

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Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.
He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.
Why can't he destroy an opponent's figure?
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Before taking a turn with Agrith-Naar, you must choose a friendly squad figure adjacent to Agrith-Naar and destroy it. If a squad figure was not destroyed by Sustained by Blood, Agrith-Naar receives 1 wound. Sustained by Blood cannot be used on Undead or Soulborg.
I wonder if caps was calling the theme into question here. Why would Angry Nani care who he’s eating to sustain him?
For the same reason Tor-Kul-Na cannot eat enemy nagrubs, I imagine.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Because it's a game, and not a simulation.

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Old September 26th, 2019, 06:19 PM
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Four attacks and an auto-destroy is a lot of offensive output for one figure! He seems a little underpriced.
He's destroying your own figures in your army, or your allies.
Why can't he destroy an opponent's figure?
SUSTAINED BY BLOOD
Before taking a turn with Agrith-Naar, you must choose a friendly squad figure adjacent to Agrith-Naar and destroy it. If a squad figure was not destroyed by Sustained by Blood, Agrith-Naar receives 1 wound. Sustained by Blood cannot be used on Undead or Soulborg.
I wonder if caps was calling the theme into question here. Why would Angry Nani care who he’s eating to sustain him?
For the same reason Tor-Kul-Na cannot eat enemy nagrubs, I imagine.
Okay. Fair point. It seems weird to me but I can let that weirdness slide.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I've played one or two games with Agrith-Naar, and I've enjoyed him so far.

Still a slight bit worried about 7 attacks per turn with Acolytes + Agrith, but it does come with a decently big self-wounding cost.

I vote to review.
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I've played one or two games with Agrith-Naar, and I've enjoyed him so far.

Still a slight bit worried about 7 attacks per turn with Acolytes + Agrith, but it does come with a decently big self-wounding cost.

I vote to review.
Are we operating under the assumption that the Acolytes are going to be released as they are in playtesting? I'm concerned that testing a unit that seemingly was designed as a bonding hero for an unreleased unit is fraught with peril.

I abstain unit the known squad is official.

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