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Old April 20th, 2011, 06:40 PM
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Scytale's customs - Xiphydir (new!) (5/7/19)

After the end of Heroscape, I was inspired to delve into the world of customs creation. I ended up making far more than I ever expected. Any and all comments are always welcome!

All of my customs are available for online play. The figures can be found on the Scytaleverse online template.

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I jumped in another one of Dr.Goomonkey's custom contests, the Springtime 2019 one. I felt the figures had some interesting potential.

With the Common Hero restriction on one of the figures, plus the insectoid models, some sort of swarming power was all but essential. What I wanted to do is make something with that as a core concept, but do it differently than anything that had come before. Not an easy task, as there are really only so many ways to get the swarming result. I didn't want a slight variation, I wanted something new that would play differently.

My solution was adjacency-based controller activations. It's not unusual for controllers to give turns to units in range, so it's not a big change, but adjacency is much more difficult than, say, 8 spaces. It is this restriction that forces a different playstyle. To get the most out of your order markers, you want to completely surround the Commanders and stay in tight formation, at least while moving around. It gives a different effect and feels wonderfully insect-ish, especially with the honeycomb shape from the hex tile system.

More importantly, though, they are complex to play. While it is easy to believe that their potential 7-activation round would be devastating, it's not unprecedented. Marro Drones can do 9-figure turns repeatedly (though unlikely), and Frenzy can go on indefinitely. The thing that holds back the Xiphydri is the same thing that makes it strong: the adjacency restriction. Assuming things go well, you can rush out with a wild attack against numerous targets. But then the formation is broken, and even if your figures survive it will take too much time and effort to rebuild the formation. It's a one-shot deal. Additionally, the Drones are much weaker on their own. On the other hand, holding formation will greatly reduce the attack power of the group, as most of the units will have to sit idle.

On top of the difficult decisions formation-based turns create, the faction has a couple of obvious big weaknesses. Both are, again, due to their formation-based play. First, pretty much any multi-target special attack is problematic. A single shot from a Shotgun can decimate the army, and there's little one can do to avoid that danger. Second, losing a Commander makes the whole set of Drones impotent, and they're not that tough.

So with careful play one can use a Xiphydri squadron as an interesting pseudo-hero, keeping the formation together and protecting the Commander. Or it can be used as a nasty first-strike option with a blitz 7-figure attack, though for 145pts that's pretty costly.

I know it is a little strange that the Drones have the Relentless personality instead of Mindless, but I wanted them to have uses outside of just a Xiphydri build. Mindless Drone puts some tight restrictions on the unit, so it's nice to be able to toss them in as cheap shock troops in a Death Knights army.


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Old April 20th, 2011, 06:50 PM
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Re: Scytale's customs -- set 1



These cards are phenomenal! I like the focus on the brutality and primal savagery on each of these cards. Really brings out the drawn-out, rock-'em-sock-'em melee that often plays out in 'Scape games.

These are great! Love to see more!

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Old April 20th, 2011, 07:03 PM
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Re: Scytale's customs -- set 1

Really cool! Can you also list the names of the miniatures so others can get them too?

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Thank you Deadliest, you made my day. Just keep watch; there are lots, lots more coming.

quozl (and to others who want to know), the figures are:

Raider -- Gnoll (Aberrations)
Raider -- Gnoll Sergeant (Giants of Legend)
Raider -- Gnoll Barbarian (Blood War)
Hyena -- Hunting Hyena (War of the Dragon Queen)
Brute -- Gnoll Maraduer (Dungeons of Dread)
Dagnyr -- Gnoll Demon Adept (Demonweb)

Unfortunately I wasn't able to find them cheap. Also, they don't all quite look the part; I almost completely repainted them to have the same fur and armor color.
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Re: Scytale's customs -- set 1

Seems very good customs.

Pack Attack and Harry combined can be devastating.
With Pack Bonding and Animal Instincts, you will often achieve that killing-combo.

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Pack Attack an Harry combined can be devastating.
With Pack Bonding and Animal Instincts, you will often achieve that killing-combo.
It is devastating, but in playtesting it doesn't happen as much as you might expect. It requires getting 4 figures adjacent to one figure. Enemy figures are usually unlikely to be standing alone without other figures covering them, or are hiding in harder-to-get-to terrain spots. Even if you can get it, you often find yourself choosing to spread out and attack (and hopefully kill) multiple figures instead of ganging up on one weakling.

In practice, it's a useful combination of abilites, but not one that takes affect more than a couple times a game. Really, most any time you can get 4 melee figures surrounding a single figure it's bad for that figure, Pack Attack + Harry or not.

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Old April 20th, 2011, 10:27 PM
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Re: Scytale's customs -- set 1

I like what you did. These are well thought out and defined. I'm going to add them to my list of 'aquire and print'. Well done.
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Pack Attack an Harry combined can be devastating.
With Pack Bonding and Animal Instincts, you will often achieve that killing-combo.
It is devastating, but in playtesting it doesn't happen as much as you might expect. It requires getting 4 figures adjacent to one figure. Enemy figures are usually unlikely to be standing alone without other figures covering them, or are hiding in harder-to-get-to terrain spots. Even if you can get it, you often find yourself choosing to spread out and attack (and hopefully kill) multiple figures instead of ganging up on one weakling.

In practice, it's a useful combination of abilites, but not one that takes affect more than a couple times a game. Really, most any time you can get 4 melee figures surrounding a single figure it's bad for that figure, Pack Attack + Harry or not.

Great against lone melee heroes like Charos and Jotun though.
I agree.
You have done serious playtesting as I see
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Unfortunately I don't know many players who are interested in playtesting 1v1 games. But thanks mainly to my cousin PCServbot, I have been able to do at least some testing with all of my customs. Enough to get a feel for how they play and do initial tweaking.
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Heya Scytale,
Love them gnolls and they have always been one of my personal favorite monsters races. I wish WotC made another set as I'm sure they were on deck..../sigh
Anyway, feel free to submit them to the Auggies Bounty thread when your sure your done with any tweeking. I'd love to sell a few. Also, I would strongly suggest you switch to the hi rez Valkrill card floating around here somewhere as they look TONS better if you do. It's not requrired but card quality does help sales.
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Loaded the next set, Beastmaster Nadezhda Kurova's army. All in high-res this time (and the gnolls were updated to high-res as well, thanks for the advice Auggest).
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Inspired idea to use the Aspect of Loviator as a Beastmaster (Beastmistress?), whip in hand. The battlefield pic of her lined up with her menagerie is just wonderful.
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