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C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Almost all of you are familiar with the power rankings that spider_poison began and Jexik continued. What follows here is an effort at creating a new set of power rankings that includes the custom figures from the C3V and SoV projects. Much of the credit for these rankings, of course, goes to the creators of the original power rankings, upon which all of this is based.
These rankings are maintained by me and do not reflect the consensus views of the C3V project. That said, I will be attempting to maintain and update these rankings based on feedback and, especially, tournament results. EDIT: I've done a complete overhaul of the rankings. In the process of putting together the updated Delta pricing spreadsheet, I refined my thinking about what these tiers mean, and I decided to take a fresh look at the rankings with that in mind. While I haven't gotten around to doing an overhaul of the formatting, it's silly to leave the "real" rankings parked way down thread, so I'll put the updated rankings here and maybe get around to formatting stuff at some later date. A+ Deathreavers Isamu Major Q9 Marro Warriors Raelin the Kyrie Warrior (RoTV) A 10th Regiment of Foot 4th Massachusetts Line Cathar Spearmen Fen Hydra Fyorlag Spiders Greenscale Warriors Grimnak Heavy Gruts Kaemon Awa Knights of Weston Major Q10 Marcu Esenwein Marro Stingers Me-Burq-Sa Nerak the Glacian Swog Rider Nilfheim Quahon Sir Gilbert Vulcanmech Incendiborgs A- Airborne Elite Axegrinders of Burning Forge Azazel the Kyrie Warrior Azurite Warlord B-11 Resistance Corps Black Wyrmling Blade Gruts Blastatrons Boreos Braxas Cyprien Esenwein Darrak Ambershard Death Chasers of Thesk Eldgrim the Viking Champion Gladiatrons Guilty McCreech Heracles Krav Maga Agents Kuthnak Laglor Marcus Decimus Gallus Mezzodemon Warmongers Microcorp Troopers Mimring Mogrimm Forgehammer Phantom Knights Roman Legionnaires Rygarn Varkaanan Greyspears B+ Alastair MacDirk Arktos Arrow Gruts Asterios Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior Augamo Brute Gruts Bol Buccaneers of Tortuga Clayton Pierce Corvor the Tainted One Crixus Dreadgul Raiders Eltahale Fire Elemental Goblin Cutters Havech Eradicators Kate Crawford Krug Louis "Mad Dog" Malone Major J15 Marrden Nagrubs Mohican River Tribe Moltenclaw Morgan's Riflemen Morgoloth Ne-Gok-Sa Ogre Pulverizer Pel the Hill Giant Red Wyrmling Syvarris The Varja Tor-Kul-Na Ulfrid Hornwrangler Varkaanan Quickblades Varkaanan Swiftfangs Warforged Soldiers Zelrig Zetacron B 12th Caucasus Rifles Acolytes of Vorganund Agent Skahen Air Elemental Arkmer Avernus Bahadur Beorn Boltcutter Bugbear Basher Brave Arrow Brunak Capuan Gladiators Charos Count Raymond Deathcommander Mark 3 Finn the Viking Champion Goblin Slashers Haduc Heirloom Himmelskralle Honor Guard of the Blasted Lands Horned Skull Brutes Hrognak (unmounted) Izumi Samurai James Murphy Johnny "Shotgun" Sullivan Josie Whistlestop Kon-Tar-Na Kurrok the Elementalist Kursus Makwa Tribesman Marro Dividers Marro Drones Marutuk Minions of Utgar Nakita Agents Nhah Scirh Cultsts Nicholas Esenwein Othkurik The Black Dragon Racheim Re-Tak-Shi Sacred Band Samuel Brown Sentinels of Jandar Shieldsmiths of Granite Keep Sir Hawthorne Skull Demon Talingul Van Nessing Varkaanan Darkclaws Venoc Vipers Venoc Warlord Warriors of Ashra Water Elemental White Wyrmling Wildwood Monarch Wildwood Runner Wildwood Sentinel Zombies of Morindan B- 8th Infantry Pathfinder Anubian Wolves Ashi-Dhulu Ashigaru Harquebus Aubrien Archers Axentia Breach Cal the Smuggler Capt. John Varan Command Courier Concan the Kyrie Warrior Crypt Guardian Drow Chainfighter Durgeth Ravagers Frost Giant of Morh Gen. Simon Fraser Gorillitroopers Hoplitron Ice Troll Berserker Jorhdawn Kantono Daishi Kira Jax Koggo Kyntela Gwyn Lilja Locksley MacDirk Warriors Marrden Hounds Master Lao Xin Motley Max Ogre Warhulk Olog Omegacron Omnicron Repulsors Ornak Quorik Warwitch Red Mantis Blade Dancers Sentinels of Grax Shadow Binder Shadow Fiend Shurrak Siiv Sonya Esenwein Spartacus Specters of Aldorn Sgt. Drake Alexander (SotM) Tandros Kreel Tarn Viking Warriors Teeth of the Makwa Thorgrim the Viking Champion Ulginesh Valguard Wastewalker Gage Wyvern Xualtiaca Fire Ants Zaeus Zettian Infantry C+ 20th Maine Volunteers 53rd North Carolina Sharpshooters Amberhive Protectors Ana Karithon Achillean Gladiatrix Armoc Vipers Arthur of Sherwood Ashigaru Yari Banshees of Durgeth Swamp Beakface Rogue Beakface Sneaks Bloodburst Thrall Blue Wyrmling Bramcephys Brontos Chardris Clawfoot Interceptor Darkprowl Thrall Death Knights of Valkrill Deepwyrm Drow Deltacron Earth Elemental Elaria the Pale Emirroon Executioner 616 Jotun Kato Katsuro Kha Kozil Kozuke Samurai Kumiko M-43 Resistance Fighters Maltis Tez Microcorp Agents Migol Ironwill Millerson Morsbane Ninjas of the Northern Wind Nottingham Brigand Omnicron Snipers Otonashi Patrick Ferguson Protectors of Ullar Raelin the Kyrie Warrior (SotM) Red Ants of Aunstrom Rendar Fy Seleena Sgt. Drake Alexander (RoTV) Shadow Hound Shaolin Monks Siege Sir Orrick Soontir Van Sonlen Suskra Swaysil Swog Rider Su-Bak-Na Taelord the Kyrie Warrior Tagawa Samurai Tagawa Samurai Archers Tetraites Theracus Tornak Tomb Skeleton Archers Tombstone Gunslinger Tyrian the Kyrie Warrior Varkaanan Blade Dancers Warden 816 Xundar Yi Feng Zettian Deathwings Zettian Guards Zhen Yuan C Agent Carr Akumaken Brimstone Calibrax the Kyrie Warrior Chen Tang Deathstalkers Deathwalker 8000 Ebon Armor Eilan Sidhe Emperor Andask Estivara Evar Scarcarver Garrett Burns Gorillinators Gothlok Granite Guardians Greater Ice Elemental Hrognak (mounted) Iron Golem Jarek Guy Knights of Blackgaard Manauvi Marro Drudge Marro Hive Master Win Chiu Woo Mind Flayer Mastermind Myrddin Quasatch Hunters Ranjit Singh Retiarius Rhogar Dragonspine Shiori Sir Denrick Skeletons of Annellintia Tomoe Gozen Torin Urk Viceron the Blood Knight Werewolf Lord Wolves of Badru Z'Thoth, Mouth of the Abyss Zombie Hulk C- Brandis Skyhunter Deadeye Dan Deathstrike Thrall Deathwalker 9000 Dumutef Guard Einar Imperium Erevan Sunshadow Feral Troll Grigor & Rogirg Gurei-Oni Kee-Mo-Shi Kelda the Kyrie Warrior Major X17 Marro Gnids Martial La Hire Mok Moriko Obsidian Guards Otar Parmenio Prince al'Kahora Priscus Rechets of Bogdan Roman Archers Shades of Bleakwoode Sharwin Wildborn Sujoah Tomb Skeletons Tul-Bak-Ra Uzog Zogross Hardscale D Acolarh Arashara Goshiri Cormin the Dark Cxurg'gyath Deathwalker 7000 Dünd Dzu-Teh Elite Onyx Vipers Empress Kiova Iskra Esenwein Khosumet the Darklord Master of the Hunt Mika Connour Pelloth Preyblood Thrall Runa Saylind the Kyrie Warrior Sir Dupuis Sudema Templar Cavalry Wo-Sa-Ga F Grok Riders Hatamoto Taro Sahuagin Raider Previous rankings, with all their pretty formatting and commentary:
Spoiler Alert!
Last edited by dok; March 22nd, 2023 at 12:01 AM. Reason: bygone age added |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
I like how these power rankings are similar to the ones on my blog. Although I haven't done the blog for thee last 3 units, I'm sure they would be similar.
I'm thinking the Gnids are getting a little too much credit, as guys like Q10 or Q9 will laugh at them, and now even the elf wizards with Haduc will be even more of a threat to them. I'm not seeing how they are a B+ unit yet, sorry My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Thanks dok, awesome work.
When people will have learned to use them well, I think the Blade Dancers will go closer to the HSB. On the other hand, I am still convinced that the need for a double line of sight when using Directed Fire (both Omegacron and the attacking figure must have LOS) makes Omegacron weaker that he seems. I have added the rankings for Van Nessing and Kira in their book. Last edited by dalu; September 25th, 2011 at 03:24 PM. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
*Theoryscape Alert!* (hey - it's what I do, right?)
I just don't know about the Resistance fighters at B. Now, I haven't played a single game with them, but I just look at a 3-figure, 2 attack ranged squad and can't help feeling the Tagawa Samurai Archers all over them. I know they're mobile and they can get around screens, but anything they're shooting at that's behind a screen can probably shrug off 2 attack without much trouble anyway, and mobility is only so good in this game it seems (just ask the Gorillinators). Like battle reports? Click Tourney Reports (New 10/21/2012 - Cutters / Brutes!) KC's Maps Click KC's Customs Scaper of the Week #57 |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
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That said, consider them on the watch list. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Their mobility is incredibly useful. EDIT: You can fire on a target, then move other figures up to engage your opponent, or bring up new figures to replace figures that will be destroyed or engaged in the next turn. Of course, the possibilities go beyond that, but they're a very mobile squad.
Last edited by caps; September 25th, 2011 at 11:31 PM. Reason: elaboration |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Does Van Nessing justify an increase of the Werewolf Lord to a rank of B? Drafting both of these heroes is a 245 point investment (with decent stats, if not limited attacks), but it bestows a 50% chance of your WL OM's getting a free turn with Van Nessing. Of course, the flip side is that your WL-wielding opponent could also get a turn with Van Nessing, but having 2 opponents with Werewolves seems a bit rare in the competitive scene.
Now, if your opponent also has a WL and Van Nessing, at least you don't have to worry about her taking a free turn with your VN. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
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Like I said, I was very close on this - I was closer to bumping the WL than I was to bumping Kyntela or Ulginesh or Arkmer, FWIW. I'm still open to bumping the WL, but I'd like to see some non-theoryscape results. Quote:
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
I don't see how VN makes any noticeable change to WL's value. Werewolf Lord's bonding is instead of taking a turn with WL, isn't it? So having a marker on werewolf doesn't add any extra turns--just an almost negligible amount of flexibility.
EDIT: I stand corrected. Last edited by caps; September 27th, 2011 at 03:57 PM. Reason: I was wrong |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Not true. Moon Frenzy will activate the WL and a Hybrid of your choice when it goes off.
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Ah. I see. I guess I never noticed because WL has always been killed before he got any use in our games.
I still agree with the party that says that his rating is unchanged. |
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Re: C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings
Zogross and the Greenscales had a strong showing in Maryland, going 5-0. However, they didn't face the sorts of armies (ranged commons or disengaging melee, most obviously) that would give that army trouble. So, it's definitely on the watch list to move up, but I'd like to see more results.
If anyone else has results from the C3V/SoV figures in a competitive setting, I'd like to see them. The only other use I'm familiar with is the Zombie Hulks that were used in the Michigan Monster Mash event, but they were played as pseudo-commons with full bonding, so I can't really count those results. |
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