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[boromir96]

Originally Posted by Just_a_Bill

Sorry, in all my lunatic rantings I forget to mention a new terminology issue introduced by meteorologist Bock Burna, since he synergizes with Captains. Those who use C3V and/or Marvel units in their games will have to debate the pros and cons of whether Capt. John Varan and/or Captain America are or are not Captains. (And possibly Ranjoro, with his Captain of the Guard ability.)

I would expect Renegade to not want to make a ruling on this since those units are not canon to them, but a ruling will be needed nonetheless. I suspect the eventual consensus ruling would be that the design intent was probably that you have to have Captain as your class or you aren't a captain. As adults we can understand how some rules are just logically backwards for gameplay reasons, but it sucks to have to tell a kid who knows his favorite figure is a captain that, sorry, he really isn't a captain in this game.

All of which brings up whether or not it was wise to use "captain" as a higher denomination of "pirate" in the first place. Certainly if the game continued indefinitely there would eventually be some more new captains that are not pirates. (For several years I've had a custom Captain and two Corporals that are Vydar Soulborgs -- arguably the faction whose established classes already laid claim to the army ranks a long time ago.) So from my perspective this was a design mistake. They all could have just been Pirates, and if you really, really needed to have a higher rank of pirate so you could exclude the deck-swabbers from some boss-pirate effect then it should have been something else not already overlapping established game mechanics, like Commodore. (Or even just "Unique Hero Pirate" might've been a sufficient callout in boss-pirate abilities, if commons and squads are also on the way. This certainly has worked for other factions.)

Anyway, game designers need to be careful not to create future problems for themselves, and in this case it's hard for me to envision how having two pirate Classes would really be necessary.

Ooh ooh, is he a double hivelord? Take my money!

FWIW this already exists with the Death Knights. They do not receive Knight synergies, as their class is not “Knights”. The ruling is already in place.