Sir Heroscape's customs

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by BiggaBullfrog

Why not just limit Divining Rod to Durgeth? Or Savages? I think LO is right that Valkrill is too wide for the power, but keeping it in one of those smaller faction would allow it to be powerful and allow for interesting design space in the future.

I also like that you worked in Comfrey Plants, but I think they could have more utility than just a re-skinned regeneration. What if you had the option of removing a wound from either his card or an adjacent hero? (with possible size/d20 requirements -- I'd have to think on that) I'm pretty sure they can be used to heal anyone, after all.

Good feedback. I think I will limit it to Durgeth cards, that makes sense. As for Comfrey Plants, I thought about something similar but wasn’t sure if Ravagers would heal each other....maybe though.

[Sir Heroscape]

Made a few changes:

Since divining rod will be limited to Durgeth and therefore not have as powerful effect, I decided to cut it down to use it anytime but only +3 to the die roll and only once per turn. I also shaped the stats a little more favorably for a hero with 2 def and a healing power that can effect both friends and himself by using Comfrey Plants. That way, he can become an interesting unit with the ability to heal himself AND others as well as use his divining rod on himself.

[Iron Clubber]

A little clarification on Agrith-Naar, can he now not take a turn unless he destroys a squad figure, or was removing "if possible" simply to help clean up?

Really like the look of the custom, but only tried it in one match as of yet, hopefully more to come!

[Astroking112]

For Vergüzza, since he only has one D20 ability and can be affected by his own Divining Rod, it makes sense to either add "Vergüzza cannot be affected by his own Divining Rod" to the end of the power or to specify "other Durgeth that you control," and just lower his roll for Comfrey Plants by 3. Him rolling the D20 for other purposes will be pretty rare, so it doesn't feel necessary to complicate the design more by specifying that he can only boost his own D20 once per turn.

[bmon]

On two separate occassions now I've looked at Veguzza's card and read that ability as "Comfy Pants". Envisioning him slaying enemies in old sweat pants...

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by Iron Clubber

A little clarification on Agrith-Naar, can he now not take a turn unless he destroys a squad figure, or was removing "if possible" simply to help clean up?

Really like the look of the custom, but only tried it in one match as of yet, hopefully more to come!

nope, he can always take a turn, it's just that he'll take a wound if he is unable to destroy a squad figure. yeah, removing "if possible" was to clean it up, since it seemed fairly evident that he'd just take a wound if there was no squad figure adjacent. Glad to hear you've run some tests with him...that makes me happy you've taken an interest

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by Astroking112

For Vergüzza, since he only has one D20 ability and can be affected by his own Divining Rod, it makes sense to either add "Vergüzza cannot be affected by his own Divining Rod" to the end of the power or to specify "other Durgeth that you control," and just lower his roll for Comfrey Plants by 3. Him rolling the D20 for other purposes will be pretty rare, so it doesn't feel necessary to complicate the design more by specifying that he can only boost his own D20 once per turn.

Interesting...yeah I think you've got a point there.

[superfrog]

Hey Sir H.

I was thinking about the Shadow Fiend today and was wondering if you had considered something like the following (to replace the special attack):

BRIMSTONE FLIGHT
After moving and instead of attacking, you may choose any number of figures this Shadow Fiend passed over this turn. One at a time, roll the 20-sided die for each chosen figure, adding 1 to your roll for each Shadow figure you control adjacent to the chosen figure. If you roll a 13 or higher, the chosen figure receives a wound.

or:

BRIMSTONE FLIGHT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 3.
Instead of moving and attacking normally with this Shadow Fiend, you may move it up to 6 spaces. If it ends this movement unengaged, you may choose any number of figures it passed over this turn to attack with Brimstone Flight Special Attack. Roll each attack separately.

EDIT: Scy has a great point. Perhaps "choose up to 2 figures" rather than "choose any number of figures".

[Scytale]

The thing you need to decide most about the Shadow Fiend is how it fits into the faction. The Binder is a nice utility use, and the Hound is a strong single hit. A natural place to go would be an anti-squad unit, though there is great danger in giving it a multi-attack since you're activating potentially three of them. So while superfrog's idea is cool, it's probably overwhelming with three activations per marker.

I like your multiple shadows for a bonus theme. I might do something like this:
SEARING DARKNESS
Before attacking with a Shadow Fiend, you must roll the 20-sided die for each adjacent figure. Add +1 to the die roll for each other Shadow figure you control adjacent to the figure. If you roll a 17 or higher, that figure receives 1 wound.

Also, Xundar's special attack at 4 is still a sticking point to a number of us. Maybe 3 and a +1 if it's adjacent to one of your Shadows.

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by superfrog

Hey Sir H.

I was thinking about the Shadow Fiend today and was wondering if you had considered something like the following (to replace the special attack):

or:

EDIT: Scy has a great point. Perhaps "choose up to 2 figures" rather than "choose any number of figures".

I like these options, though I'm not sure what "Brimstone" has to do with Shadows.

I like that this is a very unique ability that thematically has the Fiend flying over the top of the Shadows, "knocking off" opponents along the way.

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by Scytale

The thing you need to decide most about the Shadow Fiend is how it fits into the faction. The Binder is a nice utility use, and the Hound is a strong single hit. A natural place to go would be an anti-squad unit, though there is great danger in giving it a multi-attack since you're activating potentially three of them. So while superfrog's idea is cool, it's probably overwhelming with three activations per marker.

I like your multiple shadows for a bonus theme. I might do something like this:
SEARING DARKNESS
Before attacking with a Shadow Fiend, you must roll the 20-sided die for each adjacent figure. Add +1 to the die roll for each other Shadow figure you control adjacent to the figure. If you roll a 17 or higher, that figure receives 1 wound.

I like that it's essentially what a FE is but a little less strong...but I think it's for that reason that people wouldn't like this ability, because it'd just be a FE basically.

Originally Posted by Scytale

Also, Xundar's special attack at 4 is still a sticking point to a number of us. Maybe 3 and a +1 if it's adjacent to one of your Shadows.

I'm not worried. The testing I've done has proven it to be just fine and honestly far from broken. With the current power level of the Shadows, Xundar's special is needed, but if the Shadows get stronger because of whatever the Fiend becomes, then I think it might need altering, but right now I'm really not concerned.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape

I'm not worried. The testing I've done has proven it to be just fine and honestly far from broken. With the current power level of the Shadows, Xundar's special is needed, but if the Shadows get stronger because of whatever the Fiend becomes, then I think it might need altering, but right now I'm really not concerned.

Broken or not isn't the concern. It's whether or not an ability like that should be 3 dice or 4. Even if it wasn't broken at 10 dice, it shouldn't be 10 dice, because it doesn't fit the game or type of unit.