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[Scytale]

Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape

This came up in my last online game. Say you take a turn with a Fire Elemental and get it adjacent to a figure that already has 2 other Fire Elementals adjacent to it, do you roll for Searing Intensity 3 times for the figure because it has 3 elementals adjacent?

We said no because of the wording "roll the D20 once for each figure..." but I just wanted to see what others say.

You roll once per figure, regardless of how many Fire Elementals are adjacent to it. "... you must roll the 20-sided die once for each figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental you control."

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by Scytale

You roll once per figure, regardless of how many Fire Elementals are adjacent to it. "... you must roll the 20-sided die once for each figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental you control."

I understand that if there were 3 separate figures surrounding ONE Fire Elemental you could target them all but the situation was that I surrounded a hero with 3 FE's but only rolled once for the Searing Intensity. What you're saying is that I should have rolled 3 times for it?

[rednax]

Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape

I understand that if there were 3 separate figures surrounding ONE Fire Elemental you could target them all but the situation was that I surrounded a hero with 3 FE's but only rolled once for the Searing Intensity. What you're saying is that I should have rolled 3 times for it?

The underlined part is key. In this case, "The figure" refers to "the figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental." It does not refer to the Fire Elementals themselves.

Per the card it says "Roll the 20-sided once for each figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental you control." If it just said "Once for each figure" I could see the confusion of whether it means the Fire Elemental or the affected figure. But it clearly refers to the figure adjacent.

It functions just like Marro Plague.

[Sir Heroscape]

Originally Posted by rednax

The underlined part is key. In this case, "The figure" refers to "the figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental." It does not refer to the Fire Elementals themselves.

Per the card it says "Roll the 20-sided once for each figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental you control." If it just said "Once for each figure" I could see the confusion of whether it means the Fire Elemental or the affected figure. But it clearly refers to the figure adjacent.

It functions just like Marro Plague.

Oh okay! So we did play it right...I got confused there for a second.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by rednax

The underlined part is key. In this case, "The figure" refers to "the figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental." It does not refer to the Fire Elementals themselves.

Per the card it says "Roll the 20-sided once for each figure adjacent to at least one Fire Elemental you control." If it just said "Once for each figure" I could see the confusion of whether it means the Fire Elemental or the affected figure. But it clearly refers to the figure adjacent.

It functions just like Marro Plague.

Right. Roll one time for every figure adjacent to all of your Fire Elementals. Even if a figure is adjacent to multiple Fire Elementals, you only roll once for it.

[ZeusEQ]

Hi all,

I have a question about bonding. A bonding power usually says something like "before taking a turn with X, you may first take a turn with any Y you control". It is usually used to allow a hero to be moved before moving the squad that had the OM.

Now I'm creating a custom squad which I would like to give the Predator class. How would this work with the Predator bonding power of the Fyorlag Spiders? When revealing an OM on the Fyorlag Spiders, would I then be allowed to take a turn with 1 squad member of the Predator squad, or with all of them? Are there any examples with the official units? Or does this type of bonding not work with squads?

Thanks, Zeus

[Airborne Elite 5]

Originally Posted by ZeusEQ

Hi all,

I have a question about bonding. A bonding power usually says something like "before taking a turn with X, you may first take a turn with any Y you control". It is usually used to allow a hero to be moved before moving the squad that had the OM.

Now I'm creating a custom squad which I would like to give the Predator class. How would this work with the Predator bonding power of the Fyorlag Spiders? When revealing an OM on the Fyorlag Spiders, would I then be allowed to take a turn with 1 squad member of the Predator squad, or with all of them? Are there any examples with the official units? Or does this type of bonding not work with squads?

Thanks, Zeus

This type of Bonding should be avoided. It would create to much of a game imbalance against some units. You would be better off just creating some kind of swarm ability, that allows you to take a full turn with up to X number of this squad you are trying to make. The ability should use the 20d, so that being able to use the ability is variable. Look to the Marro Drones.

While this type of bonding would be interesting, the only bonding one squad has with a different squad is movement bonding. This is to prevent a mass amount your opponent's units from being slaughtered in one turn. (While, yes, the Drones can s this, again, the have a very low chance of actually being able to.) Hope this helps.

[Airborne Elite 5]

Originally Posted by Airborne Elite 5

This type of Bonding should be avoided. It would create to much of a game imbalance against some units. You would be better off just creating some kind of swarm ability, that allows you to take a full turn with up to X number of this squad you are trying to make. The ability should use the 20d, so that being able to use the ability is variable. Look to the Marro Drones.

While this type of bonding would be interesting, the only bonding one squad has with a different squad is movement bonding. This is to prevent a mass amount your opponent's units from being slaughtered in one turn. (While, yes, the Drones can s this, again, the have a very low chance of actually being able to.) Hope this helps.

I feel I should say that this is just my personal opinion. Others may feel differently, those who are more experienced.

[Sherman Davies]

Originally Posted by ZeusEQ

Are there any examples with the official units? Or does this type of bonding not work with squads?

There are no examples of official units which work like that. My guess is that the Fyorlag Spiders' Predator Bonding power was meant to read "you may first take a turn with any Predator hero you control," but the "hero" was accidentally omitted.

[Tornado]

Great question.

I think S_D is right in that in hindsight they would have added 'Hero' in there.

As it reads, I would say that they could bond with any single predator so not an entire squad. You could add in a swarming type power that occurs after taking a turn to allow the other squad members to catch up.

[Scytale]

Bonding powers usually don't specify "Hero." The effect of this is that you cannot make a squad with Predator as the class (or Warlord, or Champion, etc). Taking a turn with a single member of a squad simply does not make sense in game turns; turns are defined in terms of units which are defined by army cards.

[Dad_Scaper]

You can do whatever you want with customs in your own home.

Originally Posted by Scytale

Bonding powers usually don't specify "Hero." The effect of this is that you cannot make a squad with Predator as the class (or Warlord, or Champion, etc). Taking a turn with a single member of a squad simply does not make sense in game turns; turns are defined in terms of units which are defined by army cards.

But Scytale is completely correct, as are the others. I think even in homebrew play that you never intend to leave the confines of the four walls of your own game room, you would find confusing and maybe impossible interactions.

Don't do it. Squads are squads; heroes are heroes. Each is a whole unit, and squads should not be subdivided.