The Book of Pummelroot Elementals

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The Book of Pummelroot Elementals

Magic: Arena of the Planeswalkers master set

-Rulings and Clarifications-

• - TBA

-Combinations and Synergies-

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Synergy Benefits Received

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Synergy Benefits Offered

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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-

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Unit Strategy Review

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[Confred]

TRAMPLE

I feel the power is too wordy and wish they went with ClassicScape's wording for Counter Strike:
"When rolling attack dice (with a normal attack) against an adjacent defending figure, you may have all excess skulls/crossed weapons symbols count as unblockable hits any figure adjacent to the defending figure. "

Would have been neat if the figure got to move in the trample cascading the extra skulls into extra moves, but that's only for flavor and I digress

[wriggz]

Trample is weird to me.

Under my reading if I attack a Phoenix and roll 3 attack symbols and the Phoenix rolls none, I can put an unblockable would on an adjacent Phoenix and another on Chandra. That seems rather powerful. Adjacency takes a hit here.

[TREX]

@wriggz , it is pretty powerful, chandra would actually take more than one wound. If the pummelroot rolled 3 attack and the phoenix rolled none, the phoenix only has one life and would be killed by one attack symbol and 2 wounds given to chandra. I had my planeswalker killed like this before.

[Confred]

Originally Posted by TREX

@wriggz , it is pretty powerful, chandra would actually take more than one wound. If the pummelroot rolled 3 attack and the phoenix rolled none, the phoenix only has one life and would be killed by one attack symbol and 2 wounds given to chandra. I had my planeswalker killed like this before.

I think Wriggz is thinking the trample damage can be split. Instead of dealing 2 to Chandra, he can deal 1 to a second Phoenix and 1 to Chandra, or 2 to Chandra and 0 to the second Phoenix, or 2 to the second Phoenix and 0 to Chandra.
Or perhaps he thought 3 damage vs 0 shields = 3 damage to the first Phoenix, which has 1 Life, leaving 2 excess damage, which he assigns to the next Phoenix, leaving 1 excess, which he assigns to Chandra.
Doesn't work that way, because the second Phoenix would be a targeted figure/affected figure, not a defending figure. The power only works vs defending figures.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Confred

I think Wriggz is thinking the trample damage can be split. Instead of dealing 2 to Chandra, he can deal 1 to a second Phoenix and 1 to Chandra, or 2 to Chandra and 0 to the second Phoenix, or 2 to the second Phoenix and 0 to Chandra.
Or perhaps he thought 3 damage vs 0 shields = 3 damage to the first Phoenix, which has 1 Life, leaving 2 excess damage, which he assigns to the next Phoenix, leaving 1 excess, which he assigns to Chandra.
Doesn't work that way, because the second Phoenix would be a targeted figure/affected figure, not a defending figure. The power only works vs defending figures.

Right, but you can split the wounds between 2 figures adjacent to the original defending figure. It makes a clump of Phoenixes easy to destroy, or a high defense vulnerable when it is adjacent to a low defense figure.

I doubt such a power would fly in Classic especially with viper kicking around.

[Confred]

That's not how it works though.
"You may have it assign the rest of its damage to a figure adjacent to the defending figure"
"A figure ". "a" means one. "figure" is singular.
Not, "You may have it assign the rest of its damage divided any way you choose to any figures adjacent to the defending figure."

That's how it works in MtG, but it's worded differently. If you wanted to house rule, sure, but that's not how it works officially.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Confred

That's not how it works though.
"You may have it assign the rest of its damage to a figure adjacent to the defending figure"
"A figure ". "a" means one. "figure" is singular.
Not, "You may have it assign the rest of its damage divided any way you choose to any figures adjacent to the defending figure."

That's how it works in MtG, but it's worded differently. If you wanted to house rule, sure, but that's not how it works officially.

Nope I'm fairly sure the power is almost broken as it is.

[MegaSilver]

Originally Posted by wriggz

Nope I'm fairly sure the power is almost broken as it is.

Zaeus does it from range. It's not almost broken. It's strong, but you have to set yourself up for your opponent to take advantage of.

[Cavalier]

All left over damage goes to a single figure adjacent to the targeted figure. No splitting it between multiple figures.

[TREX]

Originally Posted by Confred

That's not how it works though.
"You may have it assign the rest of its damage to a figure adjacent to the defending figure"
"A figure ". "a" means one. "figure" is singular.
Not, "You may have it assign the rest of its damage divided any way you choose to any figures adjacent to the defending figure."

That's how it works in MtG, but it's worded differently. If you wanted to house rule, sure, but that's not how it works officially.

I agree with confred, when it says "A" figure, it isn't multiple. It is one additional figure adjacent. It's still pretty powerful when you have high ground and a bonus. I don't think its broken though.

[Marro_Warlord]

It's a squad that can have blowout turns where they wreck everything. Trample kind of wrecks tight formations. I like things that play like these.

Just wondering, can Pummelroots wound themselves with trample?