Remove one unrevealed Order Marker at random?

lefton4ya · #1 January 21st, 2021, 11:24 AM

Discussion on The Book of the Mind Flayer Mastermind has brought up one of my favorite debates on the definition of the word "random" when used for stealing/discarding cards/order markers from an opponent - namely does it use the scientific definition of random or the "customary" definition of random which IMHO is more akin to the definition of arbitrary. So let us have a vote! For the powers below, how do YOU play or think it should be played:

Mind Flayer Mastermind

Quote:

Psionic Blast Special Attack
Range 3. Attack 3.

This Mind Flayer Mastermind does not need clear line of sight to attack with Psionic Blast Special Attack. If a figure receives 1 or more wounds from Psionic Blast Special Attack, remove one unrevealed Order Marker at random from that figure's Army Card (or cards if your opponent has more than one Common card for that figure).

Glyph of Oreld (Intercept Order)

Quote:

When one of your figures stops here, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 1 - 9, nothing happens. If your roll a 10 - 20, you may remove one random Order Marker from an opponent's Army Card.

Note: Entangling Web DOES NOT have the word random, so the poll is about the the two above, but note your interpretation of Psionic Blast Special Attack and Glyph of Oreld may differ from your view of Entangling Web or may be the same.

Fyorlag Spiders

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Entangling Web
After moving and before attacking, you may choose any small or medium opponent’s figure that is engaged with at least three Fyorlag Spiders that you control. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 16 or higher, remove one unrevealed Order Marker from the chosen figure’s Army Card (or cards if your opponent has more than one Common Army Card for that figure).

View Poll Results: How do you interpret the word "random" in these situations
Players MUST always roll a dice or shuffle the order markers and without either player looking	7	13.21%
Owner MUST shuffle/rearrange OMs but can look before the player chooses which he/she removes	0	0%
Owner CAN shuffle/rearrange OMs and can look before the player chooses, but is not required	11	20.75%
Owner CAN rearrange OMs but MUST do while looking before the player chooses, but is not required	1	1.89%
Owner CANNOT shuffle/rearrange OMs before the player chooses. OMs must be placed strategically	23	43.40%
Depends on who you play with and mood players are in, but can be decided differently each game	11	20.75%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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