The Book of Seth

[Karat]

I wiuld feel better about it if he did have disengage.

[Viegon]

Borrowing ideas of johnny, what about something like:

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Instead of taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. Place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card and place Seth on any empty space on the battlefield that is not adjacent to the chosen Hero. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other or be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph. When Seth or the chosen Hero takes a turn while engaged to each other, if the other does not receive at least 1 wound, the figure taking a turn receives 1 wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card. Seth will not take any leaving engagement attacks when moved by this special power.

I think it helps enforce the feel of them being locked in combat and that one of them is going to die. However, it's a ton of text and I worry it's not clear on how its supposed to work.

[Karat]

Playing off of that idea, and remaining true to what SirG had in the SP, what about?

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and a figure with your Death Marker on its card engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph, and may not attack any other figures. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen figure, if they are engaged and the other figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

SERPENTINE MOVEMENT
Seth does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces and is never attacked when leaving engagements.

[Dysole]

FYI I would feel much more comfortable using the power with disengage.

~Dysole, running off

[Viegon]

Hmm, I actually like that better, Karat, though I don't think the "can't attack other figures" part is needed, the auto-wound part pretty much forces them to go after each other; either that or die attacking other figures.

I'm also going to take a stab at rewording to shorten the text:

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Instead of attacking with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent's non-adjacent Unique or Event Hero that Seth began this turn adjacent to and place your Death Marker on its card. When Seth and a figure with your Death Marker on its card engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other or be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen figure, if they are engaged and the other figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the figure that took a turn receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

SERPENTINE MOVEMENT
Seth does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces and is never attacked when leaving engagements.

[A3n]

Are we ok with the The Mark of Death name here being so close to Marked for Death SA?

[johnny139]

I don't have a problem with it. "Mark of Death" is a concrete noun - a tangible thing - while "Marked for Death" is more a state of being.

Also, I'm not sure we necessarily need to combine Slither and Disengage. Unless there's a space issue.

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by johnny139

I don't have a problem with it. "Mark of Death" is a concrete noun - a tangible thing - while "Marked for Death" is more a state of being.

I like combining Slither and Disengage, personally. There's really no reason not to, since both powers have already been combined with others before.

Originally Posted by Viegon

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Instead of attacking with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent's non-adjacent Unique or Event Hero that Seth began this turn adjacent to and place your Death Marker on its card. When Seth and a figure with your Death Marker on its card engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other or be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen figure, if they are engaged and the other figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the figure that took a turn receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

I like this.

[SirGalahad]

Some minor edits:

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and a figure with your Death Marker on its card the chosen Hero engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph, and may not target or attack any other figures. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen figureHero, if they are engaged with each other and the other defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

SERPENTINE MOVEMENT
Seth does not have to stop his movement when entering water spaces and is never attacked when leaving engagements.


I really like Serpentine Movement.

So if there are no major issues, let's go with this:

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph, and may not target or attack any other figures. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen Hero, if they are engaged with each other and the defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

[Karat]

Changing the wound to hitting the defending figure allows you to just not attack and skirt it. Do we want a "must attack" clause to prevent that?

[SirGalahad]

I missed the previous page's comments.

How about we just put them in their own little world while they are engaged in their 1v1 battle?

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, all special powers on any other Army Cards and Glyphs are negated, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, be moved by any special power on an Army Card or Glyph, and they must attack only each other may not target or attack any other figures. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen Hero, if they are engaged with each other and the defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.


THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, all special powers on any other Army Cards and Glyphs are negated, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, and they must attack only each other. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen Hero, if they are engaged with each other and the defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, all special powers on any other Army Cards and Glyphs are negated, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, and they must attack only each other. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen Hero, if they are engaged with each other and the defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.

Is the bolded bit intended to work only on their turns, or is it always in effect? I'm a little bit worried about being able to completely negate the other team's powers...

If it's only on their turns, I would do this:

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

THE MARK OF DEATH
Start the game with a black Death Marker on this card. Before taking a turn with Seth, if your Death Marker is on this card, you may choose an opponent’s adjacent Unique or Event Hero. If Seth ends his movement unengaged with the chosen Hero and does not attack this turn, place your Death Marker on the chosen Hero's card. When Seth and the chosen Hero engage each other, they cannot move out of engagement with each other, and they must attack only each other. When Seth or the chosen figure takes a turn, all special powers on any other Army Cards and Glyphs are negated. After taking a turn with Seth or the chosen Hero, if they are engaged with each other and the defending figure did not receive at least one wound this turn, the attacking figure receives one wound. When the chosen Hero or Seth is destroyed, return your Death Marker to this card.