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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Initial Playtest Phase

Oh man, that is a sexy power set! Great going!
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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi ~~ Design Phase

Glad to hear you like it, LP!
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NAME = MASAHIRO ARASHI
SECRET IDENTITY = N/A

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = YAKUZA
PERSONALITY = PASSIONATE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 160


YAKUZA OYABUN
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, before taking a turn with Masahiro Arashi, you may choose any one Yakuza, Ninja, or Assassin hero or squad you control and first take a turn with the chosen hero or squad.

RUTHLESS COMMAND
At the start of each round, if there is at least 1 Order Marker on this card, you may choose an opponent's Unique Hero. For this round, all other Yakuza, Assassin, and Ninja Heroes you control add 1 to their attack number when attacking the chosen figure with a normal attack. At the end of the round, if the chosen Hero is not destroyed, you must destroy 1 Yakuza, Assassin, or Ninja Hero you control.

RUTHLESS COUNTER STRIKE
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack from an adjacent attacking figure, if Masahiro Arashi is not destroyed by this attack, all skulls rolled count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.
I propose we move to Public Playtesting with the above version.
This Passes. Someone want to update the SP and title?

EDIT: also need figure info:
The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Indy set.
Its model number and name are #211 / Masahiro Arashi.

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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

The OP and SP should be up to date now.

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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

Here's some games with Masahiro. Overall, things are looking good for him; he and his team had a couple strong showings a bad one.

One thing I realized in the last game: as currently written, Masahiro doesn't receive the boost from Ruthless Command, but can be sacrificed if they fail to kill the target. I assume the intent was that he doesn't get affected by it at all, and that's how I played the third game (otherwise he would have had to kill himself as the rest of his team was dead at the end of the round)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Masahiro Arashi

Army Test
Map: Sewer Labyrinth (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Masahiro, Boomerang, Merlyn, Talia al Ghul (560 points) VS Luke Cage, Iron Man (Mark IV), Firestar (560 points)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Sewer Labyrinth (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Masahiro, Lady Shiva, Black Canary, Ubu, Hand Ninja x2 (795 points) VS Batman (Terry), Daredevil, Oracle, Nite Owl, Robin (Damian), Batgirl (Cassandra) (790 points)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Sewer Labyrinth (no glyphs or special rules)
Units: Masahiro, Boomerang, Azrael, Ubu, Hand Ninja x4 (900 points) VS Mystique (II), Destiny, Magneto (II), Archangel (890 points)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Masahiro adds some fun strategies and synergies to the game. The boosts he offers are nice, but very well balanced. He plays best as back-up to a Hand Ninja army, using Ruthless Command throughout the game and then his bonding power after the Ninja go down if needed. When building armies I realized that Lady Shiva's Assassin Training opened up Masahiro's synergy web to the Vigilante heroes, which offers him some great choices. His best builds are probably with Shiva and a Vigilante, though I'm pretty confident he's still balanced in those builds. 160 seems to be a fair cost.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: The theme of a ruthless commander comes through nicely with Masahiro. Deciding if and when to use Ruthless Command, and who to use it on, makes for some fun tactical decisions that can really have an impact on the game.

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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

Thanks, V! To your question on Ruthless Command, I don't think the intention would be that he has to sacrifice himself, but @Lord Pyre would know better on theme.

Now that you're (at least kind of) back, LP, do you want to take back over here?

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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

I think I'd want to read through the whole thread before taking over. So possibly, but not right this second!

And he should definitely not be sacrificing himself. There was actually a point in the Shi saga where he failed his mission and was going to commit seppuku (Ritual suicide), but chickens out at the last second. So we'll need the word "other" in there!
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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

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And he should definitely not be sacrificing himself. There was actually a point in the Shi saga where he failed his mission and was going to commit seppuku (Ritual suicide), but chickens out at the last second. So we'll need the word "other" in there!
Can someone add an "other" to the last line of Ruthless Command?

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Re: The Book of Masahiro Arashi - Public Playtesting Phase

Asterius' tests:
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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Masahiro Arashi)

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Army Test 1
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: #.
Power Usage:
Yakuza Oyabun: Used 4 times.
Ruthless Command: Used 1 time.
Ruthless Counter Strike: 0 wounds.
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Army 1: Masahiro Arashi, Lady Shiva, Black Canary, Talia al Ghul and Hand Ninja x3 (890) VS Army 2: Asgardian Warrior x3, Volstagg (900)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test 2
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: #.
Power Usage:
Yakuza Oyabun: Used 2 times.
Ruthless Command: Used 1 time lost Talia.
Ruthless Counter Strike: 0 wounds.
Map: Sewer Lab
Units: Army 1: Masahiro, Boomerang, Merlyn, Talia al Ghul, Captain America (800) VS Army 2: Piledriver, Wrecker, Bulldozer, Thunderball (800)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test 3
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal Attack: #.
Power Usage:
Yakuza Oyabun: Used 2 times.
Ruthless Command: Used 2 times.
Ruthless Counter Strike: 4 wounds to Frankenstein and 2 wounds to Lizard.
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Army 1: Masahiro, Merlyn, Green Lantern (John Stewart) and Bane (850) VS Army 2: Frankenstein, Lizard and Dragon Man (840)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: (Points I think are good the first 2 games he didn’t make up his points but the third game he got over his points.)

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: (First game Hand Ninjas and the other heros did most of the damage and Volstagg fell to quickly to use Ruthless Command so he didn’t do much. Second game Wrecking Crew Destroyed everything before he could do anything. And third game his Ruthless Counter Strike did a bunch of damage and Ruthless Command was helpful. So he makes a nice boost for Assassins, Ninjas and Yakuzas
Some swingy results, but that's not unexpected. Ruthless Counterstrike can do crazy amounts of damage if the dice are in your favor.

He's 4-2 so far in public tests, 5-3 overall. Do we want to look at raising his cost at all, or waiting for more tests before any changes?

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