The Book of Shocker

[A3n]

Should we maybe split it & say 165?

[Hahma]

I'll try to look closer at this later. But from what I read in the two public tests, his army didn't do so well and in one he had Cap on Team Ups to help get 2 attacks.

He only has 4 lives, low mobility, no special defense and short range. Being able to knock figures back can be huge, especially if you can knock them into Blob or off height. Getting him to a castle wall is a lot harder than Iron Man IV who can fly up there easy and knock figures off the wall.

A lot is DO dependent, so at the moment I'd lean 160-165.

[Good Pig]

160-170 definitely feels like the right range based on the tests. I'd trust your judgement Bats.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Cool. Anyone else have any thoughts on cost here? I really could see 160 or 170. I think he's one of those who has a fairly high learning curve but once you learn to take full advantage of all of his powers, he'll be worth 170. He's just not straightforward strategically.

I think that in the past, we have tried to go with the lower point cost on a figure when there is a higher learning curve, to help ensure that players are gonna at least always have fun. That is why I favor 160.

[A3n]

I'm fine with that logic, I propose Shocker move to final editing at 160 points.

[Griffin]

Yea.

[SirGalahad]

yea to editing

Originally Posted by SP

VIBROSHOCK KNOCKBACK
Before an opponent rolls defense dice against Shocker's normal attack, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space up to X spaces from its current position. X is equal to the number of skulls you rolled in your the attack. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks and cannot be placed closer to Shocker than its original placement. A figure moved by this special power can receive any falling damage that may apply. When Shocker attacks using his normal attack, he may attack one additional time.

SHOCKWAVE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 5.
Destructible objects roll 4 fewer defense dice against this special attack. If Shocker destroys a destructible object with this special attack, all Medium or Large figures that were adjacent to that destructible object receive one wound.

RECOIL
If there are one or more Wound Markers on this card when attacking with Shocker and you roll a skull on every die, Shocker immediately receives one wound. The defending figure rolls defense dice normally and takes any resulting damage.

Just to clarify:
Shocker has 2 wounds and uses his normal attack on even height, rolling a skull on every die.
1. Shocker receives 1 wound.
2. The defending figure may be Knocked Back (Knockbacked?) up to 4 spaces, taking any falling damage that may apply.
3. The defending figure rolls defense dice.
4. Shocker may attack again.

[Good Pig]

It does seem a little odd that a figure like Harley Quinn would be knocked back by his power even though Acrobatic Maneuver is clearly dodging the attack with her 1 shield.

[Hahma]

Originally Posted by Good Pig

It does seem a little odd that a figure like Harley Quinn would be knocked back by his power even though Acrobatic Maneuver is clearly dodging the attack with her 1 shield.

Super Skrull would be interesting with his Rockwall Bounce Back 3. If Shocker attacks him while adjacent, sends Super Skrull back, then SS rolls 3 shields, Shocker would get bounced back up to 3 spaces and get 1 wound. I guess it could be reasoned that SS is stretching back with the initial shockwave that sent him back and the stretched forward again to smack Shocker.

[IAmBatman]

yea.
And good questions raised, gents. Here's another take on it ...

VIBROSHOCK KNOCKBACK
After an opponent rolls defense dice against Shocker's normal attack, if the defending figure is adjacent to Shocker, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space up to X spaces from its current position.

Pasteability:

VIBROSHOCK KNOCKBACK
After an opponent rolls defense dice against Shocker's normal attack, if the defending figure is adjacent to Shocker, you may Knockback the defending figure by placing it on an empty space up to X spaces from its current position. X is equal to the number of skulls rolled in the attack. A figure moved by this special power never takes any leaving engagement attacks and cannot be placed closer to Shocker than its original placement. A figure moved by this special power can receive any falling damage that may apply. When Shocker attacks using his normal attack, he may attack one additional time.

[tcglkn]

Yea.

[Hahma]

Change seems good to me Bats

YEA to editing.