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Old February 29th, 2012, 09:39 PM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

Hmmm... they went up against some stiff synergy. Great work as always Scapey. Thanks.
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200 was a close starting cost for sure, but it unfortunately didn't work out in my tests.


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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Kryptonian Soldier.

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass.

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass.

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass.

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass.

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass.
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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 170-180.
- Give a brief overview. The Kryptonian Soldiers are very tough, and showed that a lot this game by making some powerful hits. Nerve Strike isn’t optional, which can be very bad sometimes, but good at others. The simple fact is that the Soldiers didn’t prove themselves at 200 points this game, but that could change next game.
Map: Custom. An icy city with a few DOs.
Units: Kryptonian Soldier x4, Captain America (C3G), Bodyguard, and Bucky (1115) vs. Luke Cage, Dagger, Shang-Chi, Jewel, Wolverine, and Speedball (1115).
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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 170-180.
- Give a brief overview. These Soldiers proved to be an effective one-man army, but the simple fact is that they weren’t strong enough. Nerve Strike kicks in when you don’t want it to, it would be much better if it were optional. Kryptonian Defense helps plenty, but the offensive potential is the problem due to the fact that Nerve Strike can be more of a hindrance than a help.
Map: Custom. An icy city with a few DOs.
Units: Kryptonian Soldier x4 (800) vs. Wrecker, Thunderball, Bulldozer, Piledriver, and Fire Ant Swarm x2 (800).
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Old February 29th, 2012, 09:40 PM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

Even though I don't think it would have helped Scapey get 200 points out of each KS, I think the Nerve Strike should be optional as he suggested and as it was before.
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

I would assume that if you roll 2 blanks out of 5 dice you would want the free wound about 75% of the time, but agree making it optional is the right choice.

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Old February 29th, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

Well if these guys are boosted by Cap for attack of 6 and have height for an attack of 7, if they roll 5 skulls and 2 blanks, I would rather have the option to force the opponent to roll defense. Sure it will come in handy vs. squaddies and guys like Flash, but it would be nice on occasion to not have to use it.

Also, for the second army test, Scapey had 2 Ant Swarms with the Wrecking Crew. The Wrecking Crew are 800 points together and were going against 800 points of KS, so there were extra points going against the KS for that game.

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Old February 29th, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

Thanks guys. So:

NERVE STRIKE
A - Optional
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B - Not Optional
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

Thanks. You hit the nail on the head with the green K comment. I have really been wanting to give that glyph some more value since World's finest.

Nerve Strike does bypass everything concerning defense, yes. These guys are expert combatants and super fast. And they also need to earn their points.
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Kryptonian Infiltrator

Whoa, a Kryptonian infiltrated my PM box! Let’s investigate!

Infiltrate
Would this occur before or after Order Markers are placed? My assumption would be after. Pretty sneaky ability!

Double Attack
Standard ability, but pretty effective.

Kryptonian Defense
Gotta love those blanks, and C3G does great things with defense.

Final Thoughts
I’m beginning to see more uses for that Glyph of Green Kryptonite. Infiltrate is really nice.


Kryptonian Soldier
Atten-SHUN! At ease!

Horo-Kanu Nerve Strike
The use of “instead of defending” instead of “instead of rolling defense dice” indicates to me that this would bypass typical defense abilities that trigger when a skull is rolled, such as Spidey-Senses 9. The 5th Precinct Cops could still Protect and Serve.

Kryptonian Defense
Gotta love those blanks, and C3G does great things with defense.

Final Thoughts
I never cease to be amazed at the various ways you create stunning variety in attacking and defending. The Nerve Strike is very creative.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 12:24 AM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

That is enough to persuade me. I will work on the wording now.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Re: The Book of Kryptonian Soldier - Playtesting

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When this Kryptonian Soldier attacks a squad or hero figure with a normal attack and two or more blanks are rolled, you may have the squad or hero figure ignore this attack and receive one wound instead of defending.
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