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The Book of Lady Shiva

The Book of Lady Shiva

C3G DC WAVE 12
LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT


The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Cosmic Justice set.
Its model number and name are #058-060 / Lady Shiva.
Its model number and name are #220 / Sandra Wu-San.

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Character Bio - Shiva was born and raised to be a warrior and protector of her small village. Eventually, Shiva fled the village with her sister.
The sisters moved to Detroit, Michigan, using the names Sandra and Carolyn Wu-San. There, they devoted their time to practicing the martial arts. Because of the girls' young age, talent, and unique bond as sisters, their practice evolved into a secret, perfected language that only they could share. Out of love for her sister, Sandra held back in her spars with Carolyn. The assassin David Cain saw this restraint in Sandra one day when he visited Detroit to see the siblings perform. Considering Sandra a kindred spirit, Cain murdered Carolyn, in order to remove the obstruction that blunted Sandra's true potential.
Discovering that David Cain had murdered her sister, Sandra hunted him down, only to be lured into an ambush by Ra's al Ghul's League of Assassins, of which Cain was a member. In the heat of a losing battle, Sandra realized how Carolyn had held her back, and how much undeveloped potential she had. Cain spared her life, and in exchange, Sandra agreed to bear Cain a child, and leave it for him to raise. The child, Cassandra Cain, was to be Ra's al Ghul's "One Who Is All," a perfected bodyguard, whose only form of communication was literacy in body language, and whose sole instinct was for hand-to-hand combat. With Carolyn gone, Cassandra and Sandra were the only two humans known to share this gift. The day of Cassandra's birth, Sandra set out to become reborn as the Lady Shiva: creator and destroyer.
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Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Lady Shiva can change a Unique Vigilante Hero's class to Assassin with her Assassin Training special power. Current Vigilantes.
  • Lady Shiva allows Assassins you control to move through other figures and ignore leaving engagement attacks. Current Assassins.
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 02:49 AM
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva

NAME = LADY SHIVA
SECRET IDENTITY = SANDRA WU-SAN

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = ASSASSIN
PERSONALITY = DEADLY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 175


ASSASSIN TRAINING
At the start of the game, you may choose one Unique Vigilante Hero you control. While Lady Shiva is in play, the chosen figure's class is Assassin instead of what is on its card, and all Assassins you control can move through all figures and are never attacked when leaving engagements.

LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Figures roll 3 fewer defense dice against this special attack. When attacking with this special attack, if the defending figure receives 3 wounds, it is destroyed.

MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST
When attacking an opponent's adjacent figure with a normal attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled. When defending against a normal attack from an adjacent figure, add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled, and all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

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Old December 22nd, 2011, 10:40 AM
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LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
If you roll a skull on every die, the defending figure is destroyed unless it has the Super Strength special power. A figure without the Master Martial Artist or Close Combat Expert special power rolls 2 fewer defense dice against this special attack.

MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST
When attacking an opponent's adjacent figure with a normal attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled. When defending against a normal attack from an adjacent figure, add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled, and all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

ASSASSIN TRAINING
At the start of the game, you may choose one Unique Vigilante Hero you control. For the rest of the game, the chosen figure's class is Assassin instead of what is on its card. Lady Shiva and all Assassins you control, never take any leaving engagement attacks.
Leopard Blow is pretty powerful, probably too much so. A 1-in-8 chance of destroying:
M.O.D.O.K., Sabretooth, Scarlet Witch, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Mandarin, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Flash, Professor Zoom, Storm, Captain America, Zatanna, Winter Soldier, Shang-Chi, Blade, Hush, Kingpin, Nick Fury, Professor X, and Red Skull (all at or above her point value).

Only Psylocke has both SS (so she's not auto-destroyed) and Master Martial Artist (so she doesn't have to reduce her defense dice). Every other figure with SS would be rolling fewer defense dice.

Everyone who currently has Close Combat Expert does not also have Super Strength (so they would be auto-destroyed and wouldn't be worrying about how many defense dice to roll).

And I'm not sure how some figures' special defense powers could work, since the destruction of the figure is automatic upon her rolling 3 skulls.

I like Assassin Training, but you can drop the "Lady Shiva and" from the last line, since she already is an assassin.

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LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
If you roll a skull on every die, the defending figure is destroyed unless it has the Super Strength special power. A figure without the Master Martial Artist or Close Combat Expert special power rolls 2 fewer defense dice against this special attack.

MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST
When attacking an opponent's adjacent figure with a normal attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled. When defending against a normal attack from an adjacent figure, add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled, and all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

ASSASSIN TRAINING
At the start of the game, you may choose one Unique Vigilante Hero you control. For the rest of the game, the chosen figure's class is Assassin instead of what is on its card. Lady Shiva and all Assassins you control, never take any leaving engagement attacks.
Assassin Training should go first.

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LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
A defending Figures rolls 3 fewer defense dice against this special attack. When a figure receives 3 wounds from this special attack, it is destroyed.
Also need something in here that specifies that the figure is destroyed only after receiving 3 wounds in a single special attack; otherwise someone will interpret it to mean that if she attacks the same figure with her SA on separate turns, as soon as the figure receives three wounds total from the SA, it is destroyed.

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LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
A defending Figures rolls 3 fewer defense dice against this special attack. When a figure receives 3 wounds from this special attack, it is destroyed.
Also need something in here that specifies that the figure is destroyed only after receiving 3 wounds in a single special attack; otherwise someone will interpret it to mean that if she attacks the same figure with her SA on separate turns, as soon as the figure receives three wounds total from the SA, it is destroyed.
Maybe something like:

LEOPARD BLOW SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Figures roll 3 fewer defense dice against this special attack. When Lady Shiva attacks a figure with this special attack, if the defending figure receives 3 wounds, it is destroyed.

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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

looks good.
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

Looks cool. Batman + Hand Ninja will be really fun to play.

The one thing I worry about with her is her frailty against ranged attacks and being able to protect her cost.

I'm also curious to know what the odds are for rolling 3 skulls on 3 dice.
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

12.5% or 1-in-8 (if the math part of my mind still works).
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

Looks like a solid design to me.

VI think Master Martial Artist should be a power that we use less frequently than Close Combat Expert. So far all the designs we've used it on have been deserving, just something to keep in mind.
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

In regards to her threat of whiffing on ranged Defense - She has to have a weakness to compensate for her extreme deadliness.

In regards to her extreme deadliness - She is really that good. Her Leopard Blow in DC can kill someone fairly easily. She is arguably DC's best fighter. So we may be at a risk of "over poweredness" but if so, playtesting should tell us so. Otherwise, this card needs to represent her only attribute - she is a killer. I could always reduce her use of the SA to once per round, and that would make sense for her since she doesn't just constantly throw "leopard blow after leopard blow", and it would give her normal attack some more use as well.
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Re: The Book of Lady Shiva - Designing

Once per round is probably a good adjustment.

Regarding the opponents' defensive abilities:
Is it the intent that "automatically destroyed" bypasses Flash's Speed Dodge, Professor X's Psychic Defense X, M.O.D.O.K.'s Psionic Forcefield, etc.?

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