The Book of Starman (Jack Knight)

[IAmBatman]

Sounds reasonable.

[TrollBrute]

Heroscaper Guy:

Originally Posted by Heroscaper Guy

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Starman

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass, according to what I read on this guy.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass, either with Enchantress or as an Order Marker saver.

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? He dealt 127 points in wounds to Cyborg Superman
- Give a brief overview.
Map: Embattled Fen
Units: Enchantress, Starman, Omni-Man (990 points) vs. Cyborg Superman, Black Panther, Loki (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Omni-Man lead out and smashed into Black Panther. He killed him, before Cyborg Superman ended his run. Starman only got a 3 and an X from Reluctant hero though and moved up slightly. Enchantress and Starman then split up OM's and with Enchantress's power boost scored two wounds on Hank (127 points). Hank attacked in retaliation, but Starman put up his shield. Enchantress took advantage and scored another two wounds on Hank. Starman decided to go for the physically weaker Loki, but that proved to be a mistake, as Loki's God of Mischief ended the wounded Starman. Enchantress kept getting beat upon by both enemies, and though she tried wounding them, she eventually fell.
Starman's opponent's won.
Results: 3/6 Cyborg Superman, 2/7 Loki

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Pass
- What should be the unit's point value? 114 points (The Crow) + 59 points (1 wound to Judge Death) = 173
- Give a brief overview.
Map: Highways and Dieways
Units: Starman, Wrecker, Piledriver, Bulldozer, Thunderball (970 points) vs. Judge Death, The Crow, Silver Banshee, Kirgi (950 points)

Spoiler Alert!

The wrecking crew moved out with the Wrecker getting the crow's horrific mark of death (at least according to Dok). They tried to deal damage, and ended up wounding Death before Wrecker died. Starman came up and using the OM's he got, hit the Crow for one wound. After that I had OM's spread out and focused on The Crow to prevent him being the cause again. After two wounds from Starman and the Crew smashing him (and then Judge Death for the follow-up) he died. Judge Death was next on the Hit List, and he resisited hard. He killed Piledriver and tried to hit Starman, but his shield came up. Judge Death then fell, with another wound caused by Starman and the rest by the remaining Wreckers. Starman got snatched from the Sky by Kirgi and killed, which brought back Death (this was a massive error on my part). Who then trounced the Wreckers again.
Starman's opponents won
Results: 1/5 Judge Death, 2/6 Kirgi, 2/5 Silver Banshee

He serves well to bring up the back (after someone dies), holding a point that could be important with his forcefield, or attacking with height on a non-flyer. Oh, and I played both at him as 170 points, just to make sure that was understood.

[TrollBrute]

Couple a losses, but Jack himself did okay. Hopefully we can get at least one more test to confirm cost here.

[TrollBrute]

ZJ's:

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Starman)

- THEME TEST/Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/Pass.

- BONDING TEST/Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/Pass.

- POWER CHECK/Pass.

- FUN TEST/Pass.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/Pass.

- USAGE TEST/Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/Pass.
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Army Test 1
- Does he pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 170, maybe a bump.
- Give a brief overview. Starman did a decent amount of damage, but is first three attacks he rolled 4 out of 6 skulls.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal: 5 wound to Cable (275 points) and 1 wound to Wild Child (40 points).
Power Usage:
Reluctant Hero: used 1 times; 2 total OMs moved to Starman.
Force Field X: 3 attacks ignored.
Map: Underground Catacombs.
Units: Army 1: Mongul (340), Starman (170), Ommi-Man (440) (950) VS Army 2: Professor X (220), Deadpool (285), Cable (275), Wild Child (160), Bob, Agent of HYDRA (25) (965)

Spoiler Alert!

(Mongul chooses Omni-Man for his Champion) First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 1 on Mongul and 3 on Omni-Man.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Prof. X and 1 on Deadpool.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Omni-Man takes 1 wound and Deadpool takes 4 wounds (but heals 1).

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Cable and Wild Child move out.
ARMY ONE: Mongul moves out.
ARMY TWO: Mutant: Mind Link: Deadpool moves out and fails to do damage to Mongul; Cable moves over and also fails on Mongul.
ARMY ONE: Omni-Man moves out.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Cable fails to wound Omni-Man; Deadpool moves over and puts 1 wound on Omni-Man.
ARMY ONE: Omni-Man uses Omni-Assault SA to move over and put 3 wounds on Deadpool Warworld’s Orbital Assault puts another wound on Deadpool.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Omni-Man.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Prof. X and 1 on Wild Child.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Deadpool and Omni-Man fall; Mongul takes 3 wounds and Cable takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Deadpool fails to do damage; Cable pus 1 wound on Omni-Man.
ARMY ONE: Omni-Man finishes off Deadpool.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Cable puts 3 wounds on Omni-Man; Wild Child moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Omni-Man fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Wild Child finishes off Omni-Man who failed to roll a shield (all of Omni-Man’s OMs moved to Starman); Cable puts 3 wounds on Mongul.
ARMY ONE: Starman moves out and puts 1 wound on Cable; Warworld’s Orbital Assault fails to do damage.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Starman.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Prof. X and 1 on Wild Child.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Cable and Mongul fall; Starman takes 1 wound and Wild Child takes 3 wounds (but heals 1)

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Cable fails to do damage to Starman; Wild Child moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Starman moves over and puts 3 wounds on Cable.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Wild Child puts 1 wound on Mongul; Cable puts 1 wound on Starman.
ARMY ONE: Starman finishes off Cable.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Wild Child finishes Mongul.
ARMY ONE: Starman moves over and puts 3 wounds on Wild Child.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Starman.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Prof. X.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Starman takes 1 wound and Wild Child takes 3 wounds (but heals them all up).

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: Starman fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Wild Child moves over and puts 1 wound on Starman.
ARMY ONE: Starman puts another wound Wild Child.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Wild Child fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Starman puts 2 wounds on Wild Child.
ARMY TWO: Wild Child’s attack is ignored.

Fifth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Starman.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Prof. X.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: Wild Child finishes off Starman who failed to roll a shield.

Army 2 wins with 3 life Wild Child, unwounded Professor X, and unused Bob.

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Army Test 2
- Does he pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 170.
- Give a brief overview. Starman made up a little more than his points this game, but he really wasn’t the focus of attacks.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage:
Normal: 2 wound to Tempest (105 Points) and 3 wounds to Robin (80 points).
Power Usage:
Reluctant Hero: used 0 times; 0 total OMs moved to Starman.
Force Field X: 0 attacks ignored.
Map: Underground Catacombs.
Units: Army 1: Ms. Marvel (350), Hellboy (360), Starman (170) (880) VS Army 2: Nightwing (200), Red Robin (160), Robin (Damian Wayne)(80), Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)(130), Kid Flash (110), Tempest (210) (890)

Spoiler Alert!

(Red Robin chooses Smoke Pellets for Utility Belt)First Round:
Army 1’s OMs: 1 on Starman and 3 on Ms. Marvel.
Army 2’s OMs: 1 on Red Robin, 2 on Nightwing, and 1 on Tempest.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: Both teams move out.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Tempest moves put and places a Water tile.
ARMY ONE: AAC (Avenger Attack Command): HB moves out.
ARMY TWO: Red Robin moves out with Kid Flash following.
ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman moves out.
ARMY TWO: Batgirl, Robin, and Nightwing all move out.
ARMY ONE: Ms. Marvel moves out and fails to do damage.

Second Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Ms. Marvel.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Nightwing and 1 on Tempest.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Batgirl, Red Robin, and Kid Flash fall; HB takes 5 wounds and Ms. Marvel takes 1.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: AAC: HB moves up and rolls a 3 for his SA; Ms. Marvel kills Batgirl.
ARMY TWO: Titans Go!: Tempest places a Water tile, doing 1 wound to HB; Red Robin moves over and puts 1 wound on Ms. Marvel; Nightwing moves over (Kid Flash moves over too) and puts 3 wounds on HB.
ARMY ONE: Ms. Marvel moves up and finishes off Red Robin.
ARMY TWO: Nightwing fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: AAC: HB finishes off Kid Flash.
ARMY TWO: Tempest puts 1 wound on HB.

Third Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Ms. Marvel.
Army 2’s OMs: 3 on Nightwing and 1 on Tempest.
Initiative goes to Army 2.
Round Sum-up: HB falls; Ms. Marvel takes 1 wound and Starman takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY TWO: Titans Go!: Robin moves a space and fails to roll a skull; Tempest puts 2 wounds on HB; Nightwing fails to finish HB.
ARMY ONE: Ms. Marvel moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Nightwing finishes off HB.
ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman moves over and fails to wound Tempest; Ms. Marvel also fails to wound Tempest.
ARMY TWO: Tempest moves over and places a Water tile, doing 1 wound to both Ms. Marvel and Starman.
ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman fails to do damage; Ms. Marvel also fails to do damage.

Fourth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Ms. Marvel.
Army 2’s OMs: 2 on both Tempest and Nightwing.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Tempest falls; Nightwing takes 1 wound, Robin takes 2 wounds, and Ms. Marvel takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman puts 1 wound on Tempest; Ms. Marvel fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Titans Go!: Robin targets, but Ms. Marvel uses Smoke Pellets to save Starman; Tempest fails to do damage takes 1 wound for The Best Defense; Nightwing puts 1 wound on Ms. Marvel and takes 1 wound from Ms. Marvel.
ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman moves over and puts 1 wound on Tempest; Ms. Marvel finishes him off.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.
ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman puts 2 wounds on Robin; Ms. Marvel fails to finishes off Robin.
ARMY TWO: OM lost.

Fifth Round:
Army 1’s OMs: all on Ms. Marvel.
Army 2’s OMs: all on Nightwing.
Initiative goes to Army 1.
Round Sum-up: Starman and Ms. Marvel fall; Nightwing takes 1 wound.

Spoiler Alert!

ARMY ONE: AAC: Starman finishes off Robin; Ms. Marvel fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Nightwing moves down and puts 1 wound on Ms. Marvel and finishes off Starman.
ARMY ONE: Ms. Marvel fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Nightwing finishes off Ms. Marvel and takes 1 wound himself.

Army 2 wins with 2 life Nightwing.

Finals Thoughts: Starman was fun, and don’t see a real problems. Nice to see Force Field X and Aerial Advantage reused.

[TrollBrute]

He's 0-4 at 170, but he faced some tough armies and did well himself. I'm fine with 170. How's everyone else feel?

[johnny139]

He's definitely not undercosted at 170, but I think the results in general push more toward 160. Other than that blowout against Cable, I don't think he's warranted more than that. I wouldn't contest 170 if that's what your preference, though.

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by johnny139

He's definitely not undercosted at 170, but I think the results in general push more toward 160. Other than that blowout against Cable, I don't think he's warranted more than that. I wouldn't contest 170 if that's what your preference, though.

Looking over the tests again, he performed above his cost at 160, but went 2-2. With the losses at 170, I could definitely see 160. I'll give it 'til the morning to vote, if anyone else wants to chime in.

[tcglkn]

Looking at the results I could see either way but you'd probably have a harder time supporting 170 so I think 160 would be good.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by johnny139

He's definitely not undercosted at 170, but I think the results in general push more toward 160. Other than that blowout against Cable, I don't think he's warranted more than that. I wouldn't contest 170 if that's what your preference, though.

[TrollBrute]

That settles it for me. I propose Starman move to Final Editing at 160 points.

[SirGalahad]

yea to editing

Do you want him able to take OMs from squad cards if only 1 squaddie is destroyed?

[tcglkn]

Don't know if you need my vote but Yea