The Book of Angstrom Levy

[Hahma]

Interesting ideas.

[A3n]

I am not seeing a justification for the 5 attack anywhere.

Some edit's to your last version of Reality Trap.

Instead of attacking with Angstrom Levy, you may choose either Angstrom Levy or any adjacent figure that is not an Event Hero and, if there is at least one other. You cannot choose a figure in the player that controls the chosenif it is the last figure in it's army, p. Place thatthe chosen figure on this card. BeforeEach time the player that hascontrols the chosen figure in that player's army reveals an Order Marker, that playerthey may either;
• If the chosen figure is not Angstrom, roll the 20-sided die. If youthe player rolls 14 or higher, that player may place the chosen figure in their starting zone, or
• If the chosen figure is Angstrom Levy is on this card, you may place him in your starting zone without rolling the 20-sided die.
There may only be one figure on this card at a time.

Pastability (but I am sure SirG will edit further):

Instead of attacking with Angstrom Levy, you may choose either Angstrom or any adjacent figure that is not an Event Hero. You cannot choose a figure if it is the last figure in it's army. Place the chosen figure on this card. Each time the player that controls the chosen figure reveals an Order Marker, they may either;
• if the chosen figure is not Angstrom, roll the 20-sided die. If the player rolls 14 or higher, that player may place the chosen figure in their start zone, or
• if the chosen figure is Angstrom, place him in your start zone.
There may only be one figure on this card at a time.

I think it's enough that Angstrom is off the battlefield & out of danger to not also get 2 wounds healed at a time.
And consistency edits:

ALTERNATE REALITIES
Before taking a turn with Angstrom Levy, you may roll the 20-sided die. On aIf you roll 14-20 or higher, you may add or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of the figure on this card, or two Wound Markers if the figure on this card is Angstrom Levy.

Pastability:

ALTERNATE REALITIES
Before taking a turn with Angstrom Levy, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 14 or higher, you may add or remove a Wound Marker from the Army Card of the figure on this card.

Having said all that, I still don't like that this guy can leave a squad figure & remove a full health heavy hitter from the battlefield & just destroy the squad figure to win the match. In fact I am not that comfortable with it at all.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Lord Pyre

The ideas are cool, aside from the fact that Angstrom doesn't go with him. He puts up a portal, and they get sent to a place of his choosing, which could be something nasty, or his medical team.

There was a point where they were just beating on each other, but that doesn't require alternate realities, plus that was after he softened Invincible up, because he knew he was no match for him otherwise. If we go the route of just trading blows, he'd be great against really low power guys to finish them off, but useless against the heavy hitters, and the intention was for him to help nullify heavy hitters.

Is there still problems with my last try? And if so, if we just added in an initial die roll, would that be better?

My version could very easily be tweaked so that Levy can send figures to the "pocket reality" I'll call it without going there himself. In terms of winning conditions, I still think this is a better route to go.

I also happen to think having a small side "battlefield" like that is a lot of themey fun.

[IAmBatman]

It drops a lot of text as well. See? Easy, peasy:

ALTERNATE REALITIES
Start the game with a three hex grass tile, called an Alternate Reality tile. Before placing Order Markers at the start of the game, place this tile near the battlefield. The Alternate Reality tile is considered part of the Battlefield, but figures occupying it cannot be affected by special powers on any Glyph or Army Card of a figure other than Angstrom Levy not occupying the Alternate Reality tile.

REALITY TRAP
Instead of moving with Angstrom Levy, you may choose Angstrom Levy or an adjacent figure. Place the chosen figure on any empty space on the Reality tile. Whenever a player reveals a numbered Order Marker on a figure other than Angstrom Levy that occupies the Alternate Reality tile, before taking a turn with the figure, that player may roll the 20-sided die. If that player rolls 14 or higher, that player may place the figure in any empty space in that player’s start zone, then must roll a single unblockable attack die against the placed figure. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on Angstrom Levy, you may place him in any empty space in your start zone, then remove up to two Wound Markers from this card. Figures moved by Reality Trap do not take leaving engagement attacks.

[johnny139]

The "Alternate Reality tile" seemed a bit out there to begin with... but it's growing on me. I wouldn't mind seeing that go through.

[quozl]

The 3-hex tile makes it more powerful though. Angstrom could put three figures there.

[Lord Pyre]

I'll have to look in-depth later, lots of running around this morning.

The 5 attack was because his strength was augmented by his alien surgeons, to the point of actually matching Invincible in fisticuffs for a time. Not a huge deal, but thematic. I want to keep the healing aspect, even if we lower it to one wound, because he usually ever slips away if his head looks like a smashed watermelon and needs to be fixed up.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by quozl

The 3-hex tile makes it more powerful though. Angstrom could put three figures there.

Sure. I wanted to have room for him and a double spacer. We could shrink it to two spaces, though, if you prefer.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Sure. I wanted to have room for him and a double spacer. We could shrink it to two spaces, though, if you prefer.

I was thinking a seven hex-er.

[IAmBatman]

Sure, you could go bigger too and they could all just decide to turtle there if they got enough points

Sending figures into another reality is a nice way to bust up pods, though, fwiw.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

It drops a lot of text as well. See? Easy, peasy:

ALTERNATE REALITIES
Start the game with a three hex grass tile, called an Alternate Reality tile. Before placing Order Markers at the start of the game, place this tile near the battlefield. The Alternate Reality tile is considered part of the Battlefield, but figures occupying it cannot be affected by special powers on any Glyph or Army Card of a figure other than Angstrom Levy not occupying the Alternate Reality tile.

REALITY TRAP
Instead of moving with Angstrom Levy, you may choose Angstrom Levy or an adjacent figure. Place the chosen figure on any empty space on the Reality tile. Whenever a player reveals a numbered Order Marker on a figure other than Angstrom Levy that occupies the Alternate Reality tile, before taking a turn with the figure, that player may roll the 20-sided die. If that player rolls 14 or higher, that player may place the figure in any empty space in that player’s start zone, then must roll a single unblockable attack die against the placed figure. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on Angstrom Levy, you may place him in any empty space in your start zone, then remove up to two Wound Markers from this card. Figures moved by Reality Trap do not take leaving engagement attacks.

I read through this in-depth, and I really like it. A lot of tweaking will be needed, I think, but if we all can get on board with this, it'd pretty awesome.

We just need to specify what happens to the figures in the alternate reality. They technically would be stuck, as Angstrom is just a door to send people places, taking him out wouldn't change anything. But even in the comics, Invincible got stuck in an alternate reality, but his alternate teammates devised a way to send him back home, so it wouldn't be a huge theme break for them to get sent back to their starting zone.

Only other problem is specifying start zones. Not all battle formats have start zones, plus Galactus could eat your start zones. Just not sure extra wording is required for that. We could always make an FAQ ruling on Galactus, and if you play a different type of game you could figure out beforehand where the starting spaces would be.

Man, it'd be cool to have a scenario based around this guy, actually. Invincible officially teamed up with Spider-Man (And met the Avengers), unofficially met Batman (Was clearly him, but didn't name him to avoid copyrights), and Y the Last Man and Walking Dead were all referenced, also. Have like four games set up, with your characters traveling through them all, while trying to take out Angstrom. Might be awesome.

[A3n]

I'm happier with this approach. Some minor edits (with a re-usable approach):

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

ALTERNATE REALITIES
Start the game with a three hex grass tile, called an Alternate Reality tile. Before placing Order Markers at the start of the game, place this tile near the battlefield. The Alternate Reality tile is considered part of the Battlefield, but figures occupying it cannot be affected by special powers on any Glyph or Army Card of a figure other than Angstrom Levy not occupying the Alternate Reality tile unless they have the Alternate Realities special power.

REALITY TRAP
Instead of moving with Angstrom Levy, you may choose Angstrom Levy or an adjacent figure. Place the chosen figure on any empty space on the Alternate Reality tile. Whenever a player reveals a numbered Order Marker on a figure other than Angstrom Levy that occupies the Alternate Reality tile and does not have the Alternate Realities special power, before taking a turn with the figure, that player may roll the 20-sided die. If that player rolls 14 or higher, that player may place the figure inon any empty space in that player’s start zone, then must roll a single unblockable attack die against the placed figure. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on Angstrom Levy, you may place him in any empty space in your start zone, then remove up to two Wound Markers from this card. Figures moved by Reality Trap do not take leaving engagement attacks.

If you still wanted to cause wounds to figures whilst in the alternate reality you could remove Angstrom's healing out & make the roll a must roll & provide wounds on a lower role like:

REALITY TRAP
Instead of moving with Angstrom Levy, you may choose Angstrom or an adjacent figure. Place the chosen figure on any empty space on the Alternate Reality tile. Whenever a player reveals a numbered Order Marker on a figure that occupies the Alternate Reality tile and does not have the Alternate Realities special power, before taking a turn with the figure, that player must roll the 20-sided die. If that player rolls 1-8 place a wound marker on the Army card of that figure. If that player rolls 9-15, nothing happens. If that player rolls 16 or higher, that player may place the figure on any empty space in that player’s start zone.

NAME NEEDED FOR ANGSTROMS HEALING
Before taking a turn with Angstrom Levy you may remove 2 Wound Markers from this card or place Angstrom on an empty space in your start zone.