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The Book of Shadow Demon
The Book of Shadow Demon C3G DC SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 26 ANTI-MATTER UNIVERSE The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Crisis Anti-Monitor Action Pack set. Its model number and name are #224 / Shadow Demon. _________________________________________________________________ Character Bio - “In more modern times, the being known as Pariah performed an experiment similar to the one Krona attempted long ago on a parallel Earth [….] This experiment resulted in the reawakening of both the Monitor and the Anti-Monitor, and the destruction of Pariah's Earth and his universe. The Anti-Monitor rebuilt his army, taking over Qward and using the Thunderers as his own private army, as well as creating the Shadow Demons from the elite of the Thunderers.” (Wikipedia, 2013). _________________________________________________________________ -Rulings and Clarifications-
-Combinations and Synergies- Incoming Synergy:
-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses- Immunities
-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. Last edited by Splash; August 5th, 2022 at 11:26 PM. Reason: png |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
NAME = SHADOW DEMON
SPECIES = QWARDIAN UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO CLASS = DESTROYER PERSONALITY = DEADLY SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5 LIFE = 3 MOVE = 5 RANGE = 1 ATTACK = 3 DEFENSE = 6 POINTS = 130 SWARM OF SHADOWS After revealing an Order Marker on any other Qwardian Hero or squad you control, before taking a turn with that Army Card, you may move this Shadow Demon up to 2 spaces. INTANGIBILITY This Shadow Demon can move through all figures, Fortress Walls, and obstacles, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. This Shadow Demon cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or for any opponents' special powers that require clear sight. TOUCH OF DEATH 15 Before attacking with this Shadow Demon, one at a time for each Shadow Demon you control, you may choose an adjacent figure and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 15-19, the chosen figure receives one wound. If you roll 20 or higher, the chosen figure receives three wounds. FLYING C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. Last edited by tcglkn; June 17th, 2021 at 04:12 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
Mechanically it all seems fine, they just seem more powerful then I picture them in my head.
You don't think it's too quirky to be bonding with the likes of Cyborg Superman, Doomsday, Ultron or [redacted]? [redacted] I think is a fine fit & don't see an issue with but the others do kind of seem a little too quirky. My Maps: Classic; Marvel My Customs: Dr Who | Terrain | Star Wars Card Template | Repaint & Mods | Playing Card sized Cards Helmaverse | Helmaverse League International C3G Links: C3G Super Hero Draft cards | TableTop Simulator C3G Map additions | Heroscape Dice Roller Last edited by IAmBatman; July 9th, 2013 at 09:55 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
Subscribed. No time to comment as I have to playtest while I can.
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
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For Touch of Death 15, could there be an issue with the Shadow Demon "engaging" multiple figures during its normal move or Swarm of Shadows move, thus allowing multiple opportunities to roll for TOD15 during its move? There is no limit, so it could roll for TOD each time it engages a figure during its move. Maybe something like this? Quote:
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon Last edited by Hahma; April 27th, 2013 at 09:51 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
Good notes, Hahma. I'll definitely make that change after the breathing period to end the exploit.
A3n, the intent of them bonding with Destroyer Heroes was to let them bond with each other, Anti-Monitor, and Thunderers of Qward. Since they come from the Anti-Matter Universe, and Cyborg Superman is a Yellow Lantern, that one doesn't feel too terrible. The others I chalk up to being about the same as Punisher bonding with Robin or Flash getting extra protection for Invisible Woman. Edit: And in the comics, they were mostly swarming fodder, but they could instantly kill and were a bit tough to get rid of. I think this represents that somewhat well (hard to hit, but only 3 life, not great attackwise, but can swarm and do D20 damage). C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
Yeah, I'm incredible sometimes
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
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Again I did get what you are going for, just a lot tougher than I pictured them. My Maps: Classic; Marvel My Customs: Dr Who | Terrain | Star Wars Card Template | Repaint & Mods | Playing Card sized Cards Helmaverse | Helmaverse League International C3G Links: C3G Super Hero Draft cards | TableTop Simulator C3G Map additions | Heroscape Dice Roller |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
SP updated - sending out to the ERB now!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. Last edited by IAmBatman; May 11th, 2013 at 12:01 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
Any thoughts on the cost here? I'm wondering if it's not a little too high currently. That said, I wonder if I shouldn't try to make them any tougher, just because the figure is so rare.
A3n seemed to have the impression that they weren't very tough though, so maybe not? Thoughts/opinions, especially from folks who've read Crisis on Infinite Earths? C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Shadow Demon - Design Phase
I have no idea about these guys thematically, as I haven't read anything with them.
Cost-wise is kind of tricky. They do have 6 defense and can't be hit from distance. Getting to move them with a Destroyer is nice in not having to put OM's on them and give the opponent something nasty to be pre-occupied with (the Destroyer), which can allow these guys to engage and have a chance of auto wounding or even killing, especially if there's a unit in their army that can boost their d20 roll. If they activate on their own, maybe have the X on them when they are activated by the Destroyer most of the time and them switheroo to give them an OM to get them to reach an unsuspecting opponent's figure. Really hard to know until testing though. Auto-kills are tough though and should be priced with err on the high side rather than too low. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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