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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

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Yeah I don't like the at any point part at all. I think it should be defined.
It's not without precedent, though - the castle door can be opened or shut at any time. I can see how it could get messy but as an Event Hero I think it's worth the oddness.
What did you think of my modified version? It gets rid of the "at any point" (and also the size changing).

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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

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Hmm, yeah, that's too bad - since he can teleport enemies wherever he wants, too, but I think we'll have to limit that. Stupid lava.

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Yeah I don't like the at any point part at all. I think it should be defined.
It's not without precedent, though - the castle door can be opened or shut at any time. I can see how it could get messy but as an Event Hero I think it's worth the oddness.
For an in animate object that it is appropriate for, I don't have a problem with it because it doesn't interfere with turns or anything else, but these powers would. I do not like it at all for a figure.

Will there be other X OM powers on the other watchmen? If not then the revealing it here is arbitrary & pointless.

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Once per round, after revealing an Order Marker on this card, Dr. Manhattan may not move or attack this turn.
That way it's definite that once he won't do anything, plus he's not as swingy.

Not sure his personality should be cold. To me, that implies something sinister. I'd prefer something like Distant.
What about just a simple D20 roll?
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

Like I said, I suggested that to be less swingy. We have a d20 roll now, and there's the chance he won't do anything for a whole round.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

Here's a rewrite that I think should cover most bases:

DOCTOR MANHATTAN
JONATHAN OSTERMAN

ENTITY
EVENT HERO
RECLUSE
COLD

MEDIUM 5

LIFE 9

MOVE 9
RANGE 9
ATTACK 9
DEFENSE 9

500 POINTS?

RECONSTITUTION

Before placing Order Markers, if Doctor Manhattan is destroyed, you may place him on any empty space on the battlefield and remove 4 Wound Markers from this card.

INFINITE BEING
After revealing an Order Marker on a figure you control, you may choose if Doctor Manhattan is considered Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, or Huge, view any Order Markers on your opponents’ cards, and rearrange any unrevealed Order Markers on Army Cards you control.

APATHETIC
Before taking a turn with Doctor Manhattan, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 10 or less, Doctor Manhattan’s turn immediately ends.

MOLECULAR TELEPORTATION
Instead of moving with Doctor Manhattan, you may choose any friendly adjacent figures and place place him on any unoccupied spaces on the battlefield. After placing Doctor Manhattan, place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Doctor Manhattan. Figures moved by Molecular Teleportation never take leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH SYMBOL
FLYING SYMBOL

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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

I could roll with that if we REALLY dislike the "at any point" stuff, but I'd like to stick with that if possible.

(I'd also like to keep the Size designation changer, if only because it's such a cool thematic touch. It probably wouldn't come into play very often.)
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

I don't mind the swing. Doctor Manhattan is most defined as a character that spends half of the book navel-gazing on Mars instead of actually saving the world. The Comedian says it himself - he could do anything, but most of the time he doesn't want to. He's NOT an active participant until he feels the need to be; he's a superhero that doesn't generally do much hero-ing. If the design doesn't capture that I think it's not doing it's job.

You should say "dammit Manhattan get off your big blue behind and SAVE THE WORLD ALREADY!" Comic accuracy.

One thing I like about the X Marker is that it allows Ozymandias to completely neuter Manhattan as he does in the book, but if we feel it's clearer otherwise I don't mind dropping it.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

I really don't like the "at any point" or the "once per round" because then the opponent has to keep tabs on him using it or not & that's not fun in any game.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

Do you want Molecular Teleportation to be able to send multiple figures to many places all over the battlefield?

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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

Probably not, no. If only for balance reasons.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

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Probably not, no. If only for balance reasons.
Then you'll need to change it to something like this:

MOLECULAR TELEPORTATION
Instead of moving with Doctor Manhattan, you choose any friendly figures adjacent to Doctor Manhattan and then place Doctor Manhattan on any empty space on the battlefield. After placing Doctor Manhattan, place the chosen figures on any empty spaces adjacent to Doctor Manhattan. Figures moved by Molecular Teleportation never take leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

You don't put OMs on destroyed cards, unless the power tells you that you can.

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Re: The Book of Doctor Manhattan (Design Phase)

Yup, updated once again.
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