The Book of Sacred Shrine

[Yodaking]

I copied the idea from one I saw Red Eye Jedi do on the Mogo map, so he should get the credit. I would also support the adoption of that as a standard format for map play tests. It really makes you think about different aspects of the map while you fill it all out and thus provides some good feedback. I looked at a few previous play test submissions to see what others had done and the one my REJ stood out for me as a good example to follow.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Thanks, Yodaking!

[Red Eyed Jedi]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

I copied the idea from one I saw Red Eye Jedi do on the Mogo map, so he should get the credit. I would also support the adoption of that as a standard format for map play tests. It really makes you think about different aspects of the map while you fill it all out and thus provides some good feedback. I looked at a few previous play test submissions to see what others had done and the one my REJ stood out for me as a good example to follow.

Eh..It was out of a need to make sure I didn't forget to include any important info when I did a map test. I tend to be forgetful at times so I found it helpful. As for the "credit" or whatever, I'm just happy to help contribute to the group effort. Thanks for the mention though Yodaking.

[marrowick]

Almost everything in the summary was handwritten and then written onto this PM.

C3G NOT SO STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST MAP Sacred Shrine

- THEME TEST/ Check to see what format the map would best be used for.
SKIRMISH

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not this map is worth using.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or NoYES.
- What should be the map's format? SKIRMISH
- Give a brief overview. Great map. Really fun to play on and will bring a good game to many people. DSoesn't require too many sets so many people will have the pieces. It's easy to build and is again very fun to play on. It would be ideal for skirmish only because the pillars can cause LOS issues so it probably would not be ideal for competitive.
Map: Sacred Shrine.
Units: Commissioner Gordon, Batman (I), Robin (Dick Grayson), Cat Woman, Judge Dredd, 5th precinct Beat Cops x5 vs. Ronan, Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), Kree Scout x8.

Spoiler Alert!

Before R1 Ronan chooses Batman for the Accused. Commissioner Gordon chooses Batman as the Vigilante for his Bat Signal special power. Commissioner Gordon places Batman six spaces away from him.

R1
In turn 1 Commissioner Gordon advances and uses his call for backup special power moving six lawmen. A Kree Scout advances, uses it's Tactical Teleportation special power moving Ronan and Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), and bonds with Ronan. Ronan grabs a glyph. The glyph is Time Bomb but nothing happens.

In turn 2 The glyph of time bomb goes off from a 1 killing Ronan, Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), Batman, and a Kree Scout. Commissioner Gordon advances and uses his Call for Backup special power moving six lawmen. A Kree scout advances.

In turn 3 Robin advances. A Kree Scout advances.

R2
In turn 1 A Kree Scout advances and attacks Judge Dredd from height dealing a wound. Judge Dredd advances and Destroys a Kree Scout with his Lawgiver High Explosive Special Attack.

In turn 2 A Kree Scout advances. Judge Dredd advances and destroys a Kree Scout with his Lawgiver High Explosive Special Attack.

In turn 3 A Kree Scout advances and attacks Judge Dredd from height dealing a wound. Judge Dredd advances and destroys a Kree Scout with his Lawgiver High Explosive Special Attack.

R3
In turn 1 Judge Dredd advances and destroys the remaining Kree Scouts with his Lawgiver High Explosive Special Attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Commissioner Gordon 3/3, Robin 3/3, Catwoman 9/9, Judge Dredd 3/5, 5th Precinct Beat Cops 15/15.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or NoYES.
- What should be the map's format be? SKIRMISH.
- Give a brief overview. I must again say that it is a great map and doesn't need any modifications but it is not ideal for Competitive because of the line of site problems you can have with the pillars.
Map: Sacred Shrine.
Units: Mongul, Captain Marvel (Billy Batson), Super Skrull (Kl'rt), Super Skrull (Rl'nnd), Moloids x20.

Spoiler Alert!

Before R1 The Moloids choose Mongul as their Ruler.

R1
In turn 1 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) advances. Hugo Strange moves Joker, Scorpion, Killer Croc, Ragdoll, Deadpool, and Carnage 4 spaces.

In turn 2 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) grabs a glyph. The glyph is Kyrptonite Gloves. He drops the glyph. Hugo Strange moves Killer Croc, Ragdoll, Deadpool, Carnage, Scorpion, and Joker 4 spaces.

In turn 3 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) moves adjacent to Scorpion and attacks him from height dealing a wound. Hugo Strange takes a turn with Deadpool. Deadpool advances and attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) from height dealing a wound.

Before R2 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) removes a wound.

R2
In turn 1 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) attacks Scorpion from height dealing 3 wounds bringing him down to one life. Hugo Strange takes a turn with Deadpool. Deadpool attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) twice from height failing to wound him.

In turn 2 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) targets Scorpion but Deadpool successfully rolls for Wisecrack 13. Hugo Strange takes a turn with Deadpool. Deadpool attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) from height failing to wound him.

In turn 3 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) takes a wound from disengagement to move adjacent to Deadpool and destroys him. Hugo Strange takes a turn with Carnage. Carnage attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) once failing to wound him.

Before R3 Joker moves two random order markers from Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)'s card to Mongul's card

R3
In turn 1 Captain Marvel moves an order marker to his card. Hugo Strange takes a turn with Carnage. Carnage moves adjacent to Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) and attacks him once failing to wound him. Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) attacks Carnage dealing 4 wounds.

In turn 2 Hugo Strange takes a turn with Carnage. Carnage attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) twice dealing 3 wounds. Captain Marvel disengages and moves towards Hugo Strange.

In turn 3 Hugo Strange attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) failing to wound him. Captain Marvel moves adjacent to Hugo Strange and attacks him dealing 3 wounds bringing him down to one life.

Before R4 Joker moves two random order markers from Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)'s card and one from the Moloid's card to Mongul's card.

R4
In turn 1 Scarecrow reveals the "X" order marker on his card to use Mutagenic Experiment. Scarecrow moves adjacent to Captain Marvel (Billy Batson), places the glyph of Fear gas two spaces away, and attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) failing to wound him.

In turn 2 Scarecrow attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) failing to wound him. Mongul advances and attacks Joker with his Amulet Energy Blast Special Attack removing two order markers and dealing 3 wounds.

In turn 3 Joker advances and attacks Mongul with his "Wanna Hear Another?" Special Attack failing to wound him.

Before R5 Joker moves two random order markers from Super Skrull (Kl'rt)'s card to Super Skrull (Rl'nnd)'s card.

R5
In turn 1 Joker advances and attacks twice with his "Wanna Hear Another?" Special Attack destroying a Moloid. Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) moves adjacent to Joker, attacks him failing to wound him, uses Tactical Teleportation, and attacks him again from height failing to wound him.

In turn 2 Joker disengages from Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) and attacks three times with his "Wanna Hear another?" Special Attack destroying two Moloids. Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) attacks Joker from height destroying him.

In turn 3 Carnage uses his Web Sling 3 special power moving adjacent to Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) and attacks him once failing to wound him. Super Skrull (Kl'rt) advances.

Before R6 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) removes a wound.

R6
In turn 1 Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) attacks Carnage but Carnage successfully rolls for Symbiotic Senses 13, Uses Tactical Teleportation, and attacks him again failing to wound him. Carnage attacks Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) once failing to wound him.

In turn 2 Super Skrull (Rl'nnd)attacks Carnage destroying him and uses Tactical Teleportation. Order Marker 2 was on Carnage.

In turn 3 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) attacks Scarecrow dealing 3 wounds bringing him down to one life. Order marker 3 was on Carnage.

Before R7 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) removes a wound.

R7
In turn 1 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) destroys Scarecrow. Order Marker 1 was on Scarecrow.

In turn 2 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) moves adjacent to Ragdoll and attacks him failing to wound him. Ragdoll moves two spaces. Scorpion advances and attacks Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) with his Acid Tail Blast Special Attack dealing 2 wounds normally and none from poison damage.

In turn 3 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) moves adjacent to Scorpion and attacks him failing to wound him. Scorpion attacks Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) with his normal attack dealing 2 wounds.

Before R8 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) removes a wound.

R8
In turn 1 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) destroys Scorpion. Order Marker 1 was on Scorpion.

In turn 2 Captain Marvel moves adjacent to Killer Croc and attacks him from height dealing 4 wounds bringing him down to one life. Killer Croc uses Death Roll on Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) dealing a wound.

In turn 3 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) destroys Killer Croc. Order marker 3 was on Killer Croc.

Before R9 Captain Marvel removes a wound.

R9
In turn 1 Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) moves adjacent to Ragdoll and

Originally Posted by Rep Title

"ROLLS ALL SKULLS BABY!"

destroys him.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Mongul 6/6, Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) 3/7, Super Skrull (Kl'rt) 6/6, Super Skrull (Rl'nnd) 3/5, Moloids 17/20.

[quozl]

Why do you think the LOS blocking would be bad for competitive?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by quozl

Why do you think the LOS blocking would be bad for competitive?

I have the same question .

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Hey marrowick, could we get reply here?

[marrowick]

I just thought that since it's so challenging it might be frustrating since it would probably make it take longer which isn't something you really want in a tourney.

[quozl]

Did you feel it took longer than other maps?

[TrollBrute]

Zeej, are you looking for another set of tests here or are you going to move forward with what you have? I wouldn't mind getting some games in this weekend, and map tests are a great chance to try out new units.

[marrowick]

I'm going to have an extra test for you sometime. Hahma gave a thumbs up for using this map for one of the playtests for Black Knight.

[quozl]

Awesome! Looking forward to hear more about how this map plays competitively.

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