The Book of Wonder Woman

[Matt Helm]

Oh boy, I'm completely biased here and against the Golden Laso as written... of course that's simply because it is waaaaayyyy to similar to a power about to be posted on Plastic Man.

So for the sake of laziness, as I don't want to be the one to rack my brain any longer, I'm hoping that the Lasso power changes away from initiative based. But I sure hope I don't get the same avalanche of criticism on PM... I mean the man is all about disguising himself and then surprising his opponent, never mind the ability to wrap up opponents, who better to win initiative than the team with Plastic Man?

Anyway, I like the heavier hitter aspect as she should be able to slug it out with the big boys. I also like the flying as a staple for the modern depiction of her. I'm never a fan of the tiara attack though as I agree with griffin that it is cartoonish... as in Super Friends cartoonish.

[Matt Helm]

Originally Posted by Balantai

This seems like a bit much. One additional attack would be more than enough for me.

I agree, way to much and second the motion on 1 additional attack.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Balantai

This seems like a bit much. One additional attack would be more than enough for me.

It's looking like no third power for her now though...

[Balantai]

Originally Posted by Griffin

It's looking like no third power for her now though...

We have time. Let's let A3n come back with a second draft. If I know him, he's cooking up something for us.

[IAmBatman]

Yep - he's ultimately in control of what's on the first page for us to vote on. He doesn't have to post anything there he doesn't want to (just like we don't have to vote on or playtest anything we don't want to).
If the third power was kept, though, I'd favor the Balantai/Matt Helm thoughts on capping it at one extra.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I like that as well.

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Yep. Exactly. At best she deflects the projectiles into other things and those things hit her attackers, but that's hard to really represent ...

Well, how exactly would you represent your scenario, if not ranged counterstrike?

We are drawing the conclusion that all excess shields hit directly in a counter-strike, its not in the wording. Why can't it represent a series of events put in motion by her blocking an attack? Read again what the power says, not the way many, if not all of us, imagine or visualize it.

[IAmBatman]

I'm actually fine with it either way.

[A3n]

Ok, how's this? Is it a cowbell enough for you?

GOLDEN LASSO
After moving if Wonder Woman is not engaged, you may choose an opponent's figure that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Wonder Woman. Place the chosen figure on a same level empty space adjacent to Wonder Woman.
Any opponent's figures adjacent to Wonder Woman, cannot use any Special Powers listed on their Card.

And keeping the current Aegis Silver Bracelets, but dropping the Tiara SA. (BTW the theme behind the drop in defense for this was because it is supposed to be that strong to pierce even Superman's skin).

Spidey I don't know the ranged Counter Strike you are referring to so I can't specifically comment on it, but from what I recall of WW, she rarely ever aimed her deflections except as a statement to virtually say "look you can keep trying that but hey I can do this! Zing, Tang, vooom, Kapow! Shelf with large boxes falls on their heads."

I liked my other proposal as a third power but I'm not convinced that it's required now. With these 2 I don't think she will play as bland as she may look.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

GOLDEN LASSO
After moving and before attacking, if Wonder Woman is not engaged, you may choose an opponent's figure that is within 4 clear sight spaces of Wonder Woman. Place the chosen figure on an same level empty space adjacent to Wonder Woman. Chosen figure do not receive any leaving engagement attacks.
Opponent's figures adjacent to Wonder Woman cannot use any Special Powers on their Army Card.

IMO, this is the best power I have ever seen for WW. I made a few spelling and wording changes, and I changed the range to 4, because I think 6 is just too extreme for a lasso power.

[A3n]

Fair enough. I can live with 4 spaces. & yeah the spelling mistake was me being too lazy to get my glasses on & check what I typed.

Cheers

[Velenne]

She's looking pretty good now. Somewhere between Bats and Supes.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah - I'm digging that her lasso works automatically and that it stops you from using special powers (ouch!). It's definitely extremely powerful to take Man of Steel away from Superman in a one-on-one matchup and to reduce Green Lantern to a quivering pile of human. I almost wonder if it's not a little too much, but I think it's really cool, so I'm almost willing to just test it at this point.
I think there's definitely plenty of cowbell there just with the two powers.
Oh, and it should be: Chosen figures do not receive any leaving engagement attacks.