The Book of Piledriver

[Good Pig]

Ouch, glad she's okay. That sounds nasty.

[Hahma]

Yeah. Bruise under her chin, little scrape just under her nose, shiner around eye, minor scrape on forehead and hands. I was riding about 50 feet behind her and felt helpless as she tried to slow down by using her left foot on the ground and then the scooter wobbled out of control and off she went. There was a little blood and tears, but she got back on and we managed to save another caterpillar on the way home. She'll have a story to tell at school on Monday of risking life and limb to save caterpillars from getting run over in the road. Her and her sister have Swim Club M/W/F, so she can brag there too.

[A3n]

Damn, I winced reading that.

Now at least she might have the same good looks as her dad .

[SirGalahad]

Girls are tough though. Mine went three days with a broken elbow before she told us that it hurt. Then X-rays showed crack right below her growth plate.

That plus a softball to the eyebrow - she's one tough cookie.

[IAmBatman]

Ouch. Sounds like she got it worse than Wolverine did in his match with Piledriver.

[Hahma]

Originally Posted by A3n

Damn, I winced reading that.

Now at least she might have the same good looks as her dad .

Yeah, I have that look like I just kissed the pavement.

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

Girls are tough though. Mine went three days with a broken elbow before she told us that it hurt. Then X-rays showed crack right below her growth plate.

That plus a softball to the eyebrow - she's one tough cookie.

I agree, girls can be just as tough as boys for sure, if not more sometimes. Sounds like your daughter is one of those real tough ones for sure.

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Ouch. Sounds like she got it worse than Wolverine did in his match with Piledriver.

Heck, Wolvie was Piledriver's second course. He one punched a full health (I believe from reading GP's results) Luke Cage previously

[Hahma]

ERB from Porkins

Looks good, the only thing I would say is to simplify Wrecking Crew a bit by rewording the first part and dropping the last sentence:

After revealing an order marker on this card and taking a turn with Piledriver, you may roll the 20-sided die. Add 5 to your roll if Piledriver destroyed a figure this turn. If you roll 17 or higher, you may take an additional turn with any other figure you control with The Wrecking Crew special power. The Wrecking Crew can only be used if you revealed an Order Marker on a figure with this power at the beginning of your turn.

I basically told him the same thing as I told David. I think they just it's a clumsy wording issue and don't realize what the current wording does for the power. I just think that it's because it's close enough to the way they suggest it to be that they overlook the actual wording and how it can allow for multiple activations.

[Hahma]

Playtest from Johnny

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT PILEDRIVER

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS (Very glad he's a Criminal; if the Wrecking Crew were anything else, I'd have an issue. )

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS (Definitely; there's not really any other Criminals in his point range.)

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS (Pounding Fists never really came up. The defense de-booster did, to an extent, but the second attack didn't; he either knocked them away with knockback or just killed them first outright. But I can see its uses. And, of course, Wrecking Crew didn't get any play... for obvious reasons.)

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? YES!
- What should be the unit's point value? 180-200 POINTS
- Give a brief summary. I think he earned his points on raw strength alone. He dealt three wounds to Spider-Man and finished off Punisher, even without using Pounding Fists, so if anything he might be undercosted.
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Piledriver, Kang, Venom (600 Points) vs. Spider-Man: Peter Parker, Punisher, Beast (600 Points)

Spoiler Alert!

Villains win; 3 Wounds on Kang, 2 Wounds on Venom, Piledriver destroyed, 7 Rounds.

ROUND 1: Kang walks up a bit, lays a Glyph, and ends his turn. Spidey swings. Piledriver moves in and lands on the Displacement, warping Kang onto height nearby. Spidey swings in and shoots at Piledriver, but does no damage. Piledriver engages Spidey and SMASHES him, dealing three wounds and one knockback. Punisher moves in and fires a Rocket at Kang, dealing two wounds.

ROUND 2: Piledriver runs up to hit Spidey, but he swings away. Spidey pulls Piledriver over and hits him for three. Kang shoots Punisher for three, does the Time Warp, and shoots at Spidey, but, he swings away. Punisher blasts Piledriver with his Assault Rifle, dealing two wounds in total. Piledriver engages Punisher and kills him.

ROUND 3: Venom moves in and deals one wound to Spidey with his Web attack. Spidey pulls Kang over with his Web Sling, but Kang uses his Temporal Defense to avoid the attack. Venom swings up next to Spidey, but his senses activate and he swings away. Beast runs toward the fray. Spidey pulls Kang over and attacks, dealing one wound.

ROUND 4: Beast leaps up and attacks Venom, dealing one wound. Venom swings into an engagement with Spider-Man, attacks... and just deals one knockback. He's knocked into a battlement... but no damage. Spidey shoots at Venom, who dodges and re-engages. Piledriver moves toward Beast. Spidey swings down and engages Kang, who Temporal Defenses to stay in the game.

ROUND 5: Venom swings down and finally kills Spider-Man. He then attacks Beast from range for two, and Piledriver comes in to attack (for nothing). Beast also misses his hit on Piledriver.

ROUND 6: Beast negotiates with Piledriver, removing Order Marker 1. He leaps over and hits Venom for one. He moves back to attack Piledriver, killing him. Then he leaps over and fails his attack on Kang. Kang smashes him for two and knocks him back, then Time Warps to do it again, but does no damage.

ROUND 7: Kang attacks, finishing Beast off.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? YES!
- What should be the unit's point value? 180 POINTS
- Give a brief summary. He did well enough, killing Robin and engaging Batman, but had a spot of bad luck and went down to the Beat Cops. A bit of an underperformance, but close enough to keep him near 180.
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Piledriver, Hush, Black Mask, Killer Croc, Ventriloquist (790 Points) vs. Batman: Bruce Wayne, Robin, Commissioner Gordon, 5th Precinct Beat Cops x6 (800 Points)

Spoiler Alert!

Team Batman wins; Gordon unharmed, 3 Beat Cops remaining, all others destroyed, 8 Rounds.

ROUND 1: Batman is Hush's Vendetta. Batman swings forward, bringing Robin along for the ride. Killer Croc bursts out of the swamp and attacks Batman, dealing two wounds. Gordon moves in with reinforcements and attacks Croc, dealing one wound. Croc starts his Death Roll, dealing one wound (which a Cop takes), then another wounds to Batman, and failing a third, leaving him with one life. Batman pulls back and misses with his Batarang, but Robin runs in and hits Croc for two with his normal attack. Croc tries another Death Roll, dealing a wound to Robin.

ROUND 2: Batman attacks Croc with his normal attack, finishing him off. Robin moves in and attacks Hush, but does no damage. Hush sends in Piledriver, who kills Robin. Batman is a tad miffed, so he swings up and deals two wounds to Piledriver from height. The Beat Cops move in and, with some PHENOMENAL luck, deal three wounds to Piledriver and finish him off. Ventriloquist advances, killing two Cops with his Tommy Gun and... somehow... finishing off Batman!

ROUND 3: Hush moves in, but can't hurt the last Cop. Gordon brings some Cops forward. Black Mask ALSO can't kill the lone Cop. Cops advance and fire, dealing one wound to Black Mask. Ventriloquist shoots up the Cops, killing two. Gordon pulls more Cops forward.

ROUND 4: Hush runs up and kills a Cop. The Cops fire on Hush, dealing one wound. Hush runs into the lion's nest, attacking Gordon for nothing. Gordon does nothing to Hush, but calls in more Cops. Ventriloquist runs in, does nothing to anyone, and hurts himself. The Cops deal another wound to Hush.

ROUND 5: The Cops finish off Hush quickly, then turn on the Ventriloquist. He takes two wounds for the round.

ROUND 6: Ventriloquist kills two Cops. The Cops then gun him down. Black Mask kills a Cop. The Cops can't hurt Black Mask, but Black Mask kills another. Gordon brings more Cops in.

ROUND 7: Black Mask and the Cops continue blows. By the round's end, Black Mask is down to one Life and four Cops remain.

ROUND 8: Black Mask kills another Cop, but they finally take him down with their next attack.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? YES!
- What should be the unit's point value? 180 POINTS
- Give a brief summary. Pretty much perfect. A super even game, even with terrible luck for the Mutants at the start. Piledriver finished off Beast and killed Professor X, so he earned his points, and feels fair overall.
Map: Swamp Lab
Units: Piledriver, Kingpin, Elektra, Hired Guns, Absorbing Man, Bodyguard x2 (990 Points) vs. Professor X, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Angel, Nightcrawler (990 Points)

Spoiler Alert!

Kingpin wins; 4 Wounds on Kingpin, 1 Bodyguard remaining, all others destroyed, 8 Rounds.

ROUND 1: Professor X and Angel advance, as does Cyclops. Absorbing Man fails his roll and moves ahead. Cyclops blasts Absorbing Man and a Hired Gun, but does no damage. Jean comes in and hits Absorbing Man for one. The Guns move in and smoke Cyclops, taking him out with ease. Jean kills one with a throw but can't with an attack. Nightcrawler teleports in. Jean takes two wounds from the Guns.

ROUND 2: The Guns kills Jean. Nightcrawler uses his BAMF! Assault to kill two Thugs. Beast moves in. Elektra attacks, hitting Nightcrawler for one. Nightcrawler can't do any damage with his Assault, and Beast can't hurt Absorbing Man. Absorbing Man takes Beast's Defense and hits him for four with it. Nightcrawler assaults Elektra, dealing one wound; Beast leaps into battle, deals three wounds to Absorbing Man, and kills the last Hired Gun.

ROUND 3: Kingpin sends in Piledriver, who finishes off Beast. Angel flies Professor X in, attacks Piledriver for nothing. Nightcrawler hits Elektra for two with his Assault. Elektra hits Nightcrawler and Professor X with her Deadly Barrage. Nightcrawler can't hurt anyone, but Angel deals one wound to Piledriver. Piledriver tries to hit Angel, but is Psychic Defensed. Nightcrawler hits Elektra for one and Angel hits Piledriver for THREE!

ROUND 4: Nightcrawler is hit by Absorbing Man's Wrecking Ball, but is blocked by Psychic Defense. Nightcrawler then kills Absorbing Man and a Bodyguard. Angel deals one more wound to Piledriver. Piledriver goes around the back and kills Professor X. Angel is hit next, but he takes no damage and flees. Kingpin attacks him, but again, nothing.

ROUND 5: A cat-and-mouse game ultimately kills off Nightcrawler, as Piledriver and Angel begin to tango.

ROUND 6: Angel finishes off Piledriver, but Kingpin moves in to attack.

ROUND 7: The two play hit and run, with Angel keeping on height. He deals two wounds to Kingpin, but Kingpin does the same to him, bringing him down to one Life.

ROUND 8: Angel flies in and hits Kingpin hard from height, dealing two wounds. But Kingpin swings back and clips Angel's wings at last.

FINAL THOUGHTS: As-is, without the Wrecking Crew, he's evens out to 180, maybe a tad more. WITH the Wrecking Crew I could see him going to 200 easily, but that's a test for another day, isn't it? He's good; not phenomenal, but definitely solid for his points, to the extent that he'd be playable at 190 or so.

[IAmBatman]

I'd say 180 seems like it's holding up thus far. No reason to make him pay now for future units.

[Hahma]

I agree. His army tests have his team winning 3 and losing 4, so at 180 he's not under-priced at the moment IMO. I can see his cost going up when tested with the other Wrecking Crew, but for now 180 seems to be fair.

With that said, I propose Piledriver move to final editing phase at 180 points.

[IAmBatman]

yea.

[Hahma]

Wow, that was quick!