The Book of Venom (Eddie Brock)

[IAmBatman]

Does Vigilante really cover the entire history of the character, though? I really feel like he's been interpreted in other ways over the years. Psychopath might not be the right choice, I won't argue that, I'm just not sure Vigilante is the best we can do either.

[Griffin]

SNAG AND SLASH
Before moving Venom normally or with his Tendril Swing special power during Venom's turn, you may choose an adjacent figure. After moving, you may either place the chosen figure adjacent to Venom or add 3 to Venom’s range number if he attacks the chosen figure this turn. Figures moved by Snag and Slash will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

Updated.

As far as the Vigilante class goes, it was the only idea I had honestly. But let me also justify it a tad. The reason it was used on Hasbro's card is because during a long term point in Venom's career, he was a bit of a murderous Vigilante. It really defined him for quite a long while.
With that said, I would be happy to change it if someone has a better idea.

[IAmBatman]

How about Menace?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

How about Menace?

I like it but is it really a class?

[Griffin]

I don't like it. It is far too playful of a name and a throwback to what J.J.Jameson calls Spider-Man.

[Griffin]

Oh! How about STALKER.

[IAmBatman]

I think it could be a class. But if not that, Criminal, Psychopath, Adversary, Antagonist, Brawler, Creature, and possibly Misfit all seem like possibilities. (All classes we've used before).

Edit: Stalker's OK too.

[Griffin]

I love Antagonist, but I always try to avoid it, because pretty much all villains are antagonists.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I agree, same with Adversary actually, but we used those two on Black Adam and Bizarro for similar reasons that I think they're worth considering here. He really is very much a dark reflection of Spidey - that's his core defining trait, like Black Adam and Bizarro are at their cores reflections of Captain Marvel and Superman.

[Griffin]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Venom

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. Venom can be devastating with his Consuming Slashes, but as long as figures are conscious of it, it can be avoided for a time.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Spider-Man.
Venom is a good counter to SM, because of him being a Symbiote and it lowering Spidey's Sense.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Spider-Man wins with 3 wounds.

TEST 2
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Spider-Man.
Venom has a hard time pulling off any Consuming Slashes, but when he finally did, he pulled out the win.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Venom wins with 4 wounds.

TEST 3
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Flash.
Flash is simply too fast for Venom. Flash hits normally, then moves away so Venom isn't set up for a consuming Slash attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Flash wins with 2 wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Flash.
Flash got hit once by Venom, then the round ended and Venom won initiative so he was able to get in another Consuming Slash, but Flash quickly turned things around.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Flash wins with 3 wounds.

TEST 5
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Colossus.
Ha! Venom has little chance here unless he can roll really hot with his Consuming Slashes. Colossus hits hard and is hard to hit.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Colossus wins with 2 wounds.

TEST 6
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Colossus.
Venom whiffed on his senses and his defense against a 6 skull attack..... enough said.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Colossus wins with 1 wound.

TEST 7
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Psylocke.
Pslocke tried to get fancy with her Psy Blade, but as soon as she got engaged with Venom, on his turn he unleashed a 5 skull Consuming Slashes.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Venom wins with 1 wound.

TEST 8
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Psylocke.
This one was close, and could have gone either way.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Venom wins with 4 wounds.

TEST 9
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Superboy.
Very close and a quick match too.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Venom wins with 3 wounds.

TEST 10
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Superboy.
Close match again, and this time Superboy pulled off two solid hits.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Superboy wins with 3 wounds.

_____________________________________________________________

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. Venom was much faster and more powerful, but the AAI were able to surround him right at the end.
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Arkham Asylum Inmates x4.

Spoiler Alert!

This is a hard battle for the inmates as they really have to play slow and continue to move up in lots of numbers, where Venom can keep using terrain to stay away from them and pick them off from height. Somehow, in the end, the AAI pulled off a 3 man hit that made things look close, when they otherwise would not have been.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? AAI win with 3 men left.

_____________________________________________________________

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. Venom was knocking these guys down with each attack. with his speed and range, I didn't miss Hasbro's attack of 6 at all.
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom - VS - Parademons x3.

Spoiler Alert!

Venom was strong enough to kill a Parademon each turn, and the Parademons were struggling, but right at the end, they got some good strikes in to make this more even.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Venom wins with 4 wounds.

_____________________________________________________________

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? He was kinda owned by Spider-Girl here, and she is a great counter to him. I think that he felt more like 200 here honestly, but he did take down Luke Cage which was crucial in giving his team a chance to win, so that bumps his value back up. I think he needs that attack of 6 back though, and he would have handled Spider-girl better.
- Give a brief overview. Venom is fast and dangerous, but I did miss his attack of 6, I think I am gonna give that back to him and maybe lower his range to 2 or 3, since he isn't as much of a ranged attacker as Spider-Man is anyways.
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom, Mysterio, Electro, and Chameleon - VS - Spider-Man (C3G), Spider-Girl, and Luke Cage.

Spoiler Alert!

Luke and Spider-Man kicked things off against Mysterio, but Mysterio was tricky and Electro wasn't far behind. Mysterio was putting people in bad situations with Electro and SM ended up losing his situation, but Luke Cage finally ended Mysterio's reign of terror and tricks. Luke and Spider-Girl were able to take out Electro, but Electro had Luke two away from death, and Venom easily finished him off with 2 Consuming Slashes after Luke punched Venom for one wound and then slammed him into a wall with knockback. Then Spider-Girl went on a crazy tear knocking Venom down and back so that he wasn't adjacent to her each turn, and hitting him from height. Venom couldn't Consuming Slash, and many times, he couldn't hit her and break her defenses. Venom fell and it was down to Chameleon and Spider-girl, and Chameleon was able to get to same height and actually hit her, but she quickly finished him off.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Spider-Girl wins with 3 wounds.

_____________________________________________________________

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. This was a fun and fair game with very similar armies.
Map: Custom.
Units: Venom, Hush, Spider-Man (C3G), and Batman - VS - Kingpin, Absorbing Man, Killer Croc, and Clayface.

Spoiler Alert!

Hush moved into position, while Absorbing Man absorbed Killer Croc's defense. Clayface and Spider-Man clashed with Venom as Back up, and Venom took Clayface out, after Clayface put 4 wounds on Venom. Venom engaged Croc and hit him, then on the next round, he failed his consuming slashes. Croc quickly took Venom out, then Kingpin started moving up. Spiderman intercepted Kingpin, and every time Kingpin would try to get around Spiderman to take out Hush, Spiderman would just keep pulling Kingpin farther and farther away, until Kingpin was no where near Hush and had to fight his most annoying adversary: Spider-Man. This did not end well for Kingpin, but Kingpin was able to get Killer Croc to kill Hush. With Kingpin down, Killer Croc was looking at Batman on one side of the map, while Spider-Man was facing Absorbing Man on the other. Absorbing Man ended up killing Spider-Man, as Batman and Killer Croc tangled and Batman beat Croc. When Absorbing Man finally got to Batman, Batman was just one wound away from death. Using his ball and chain, Absorbing Man killed Batman.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Absorbing Man wins with 3 wounds.

[Good Pig]

Are we sticking with Vigilante then? Do we need a to fire up the Spidey signal?

[Griffin]

I already changed it to stalker a while back. It fits the character and this design.