HelmAverse Supers - Reinforcements Arrive

[A3n]

I believe destructible objects have a place in the Helmaverse. But what surprised me is the powers. The Helmaverse has always been a fairly simple straight forward efficient world that adhered pretty closely to the precedents of Official Marvel HS.

But those DOs have certainly stretched that definition. :wow:

I wish you had put these up earlier in the week. I have been off work this past week & would've had plenty of time to work on a new template. Now I will just squeeze it in where I can. I don't currently have a DO template so I will have to make one. Thankfully most elements are the same as the character template.

Now tell me about the cars. They look plastic not like Matchbox/Hot Wheels cars. Are they the same size? Where did you get them from?

[Matt Helm]

Ha,do you think I really stretched too far with the powers? I admit three powers on a DO is different than traditional scape but the mechanics are still very simple. I was going for simple rules that I could have available right on the card rather than in a rule book. So yeah, maybe you’re right and I have crossed a new line.

Originally we had the cars moving whenever they took damage but Batman’s batarangs being able to push a car side ways into Green Lantern seemed weird. We tried to picture it being explosive batarangs but the big picture of any ranged attack just felt wrong.

Eventually we settled on only Superstrength figures that were adjacent. The idea became that attacking the car was synonymous with grabbing it and throwing it. Now it made more sense thematically and served the real purpose which was to allow a non flying, melee tough guy a chance at a ranged attack once in a while. It doesn’t come up often but it’s available to them.

As for the cars, they came with the carrier trucks. They are all plastic, no die cast, which fits in with the scape terrain. They also seem to be perfect scale, slightly bigger than matchbox but smaller than 1:43.

I purchased them back in 2016, one at a TJ Maxx and the other at Home Goods (both stores related to each other and Marahalls). They were made by Dickie Toys and unfortunately I don’t still have the box with the UPC.

I did post some info in this old thread.

[Matt Helm]

Ha, ha! Good ol' Daddy Helm was in a good mood last night. Our last battle on the urban intersection map was an interesting one for sure. What has 2 thumbs and beat down his competitors? This guy.

Helm Jr. Team:
Venom (Hasbro)
Martian Manhunter
Wolverine
Green Lantern

Lil'Helm Team:
Deadpool
Doctor Fate
Moon Knight
Wonder Woman

J strikes Team:
Captain America (Hasbro)
Wonder Man
She-Hulk
Green Arrow
Heingst the Form Warrior (HelmAverse Havoc)

Matt Helm Team:
Brainiac
Rasputin
Zombies x 6 squads (Hasbro)

Each team started from down a street with the intent on fighting over the middle ground. Lil'Helm and J Strikes got into it early in one corner while Brainiac tied up with Helm Jr's team in the other. All the while the zombie horde marched down the street and split toward Helm Jr. and J. Strikes.

Helm Jr. took out Brainiac early but not before he put a hurting on Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern. J. strikes knocked out Wonder Woman too easily. Now there was tension as Matt rolled for Brainiac to return to replace a zombie and for Rasputin to raise a zombie Wonder Woman.

Lucky for them I rolled that D20 horribly. Helm Jr. was smart enough to ask the others to team up and destroy the zombie horde before Brainiac could re-spawn. They didn't listen.

Brainiac did return and Rasputin raised a zombie Wonder Woman who went on a tear! She throttled Wolverine and Green Lantern while the Zombies swarmed the Martian Manhunter.

It wasn't long before I turned on the other two and Wonder Woman and Brainiac both crushed it. Wonder Woman finally dropped and was able to rest in peace while all of the zombies were eradicated but a very damaged Brainiac survived alongside a very healthy Rasputin.

It was a dark night in the Helm household for the younger generation but a great one for me.

[Tornado]

Grats. Love me some Zombies.
My all time favorite design.

[Matt Helm]

Speaking of Undead (well sort of), we have another card design from Lil'Helm


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MARVEL

MORBIUS




HUMAN
UNIQUE HERO
CREATURE
TORMENTED
MEDIUM 5

LIFE: 5
MOVE: 6
RANGE: 1
ATTACK: 4
DEFENSE: 5

POINTS: 150

HYPNOSIS 17
After moving and before attacking, Morbius may attempt Hypnosis. To do this, choose a figure adjacent to Morbius and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 17 or higher, the chosen figure is hypnotized for the remainder of this turn. Hypnotized figures cannot roll any defense dice. Morbius cannot hypnotize Destructible Objects.

BLOOD DRAIN
For each wound Morbius inflicts on a hypnotized human or mutant figure, you may remove one wound marker from this Army Card.

STEALTH FLYING
When counting spaces for Morbius’ movement, ignore elevations. Morbius may fly over water without stopping, pass over figures without becoming engaged, and fly over obstacles such as ruins. When Morbius starts to fly, if he is engaged he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPERSTRENGTH

[Tornado]

Cool take.

[tcglkn]

Surprised you didn't just reuse Life Drain from Cyprien, seemed right up your alley, but Hypnotize is cool.

[Matt Helm]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Surprised you didn't just reuse Life Drain from Cyprien, seemed right up your alley, but Hypnotize is cool.

Believe me it was looked at. During our process we try to review Hasbro powers to see if something exists that fits our intent. On this one, we thought that destroying another Super figure would be uncommon for Morbius so the healing would be rare and uneventful.

Ultimately we thought about Morbius going in for a bite only when he disabled His opponent, not necessarily destroyed him. Thematically we thought hypnotizing was a fun idea to make him a little swingy and then the healing would be an exciting bonus.

During a playtesting game we saw him hypnotize Captain Marvel only to wiff on all 4 attack dice. It was hysterical.

In the end, Lil’Helm was real happy with the way he came out. We both liked the late change to separate the two powers involved (they were initially one power) so that we retained the possibility of another figure having hypnotize without having the healing component.

[A3n]

Very cool take on the character. I will get you a card soonish.

[A3n]

Ok, I know you had Marvel as the publisher (& can certainly use that) but I thought that these are unique in your universe so why not use an unique logo. Say ICE...

[Matt Helm]

The Compact Cars look incredible! And I'm totally on board with a unique logo instead of Marvel. In fact, I think the logo you created looks awesome and would love to keep that on there BUT... I have to ask what "ICF" means before I officially give a thumbs up. I mean, it could be some secret message for some cult or hate group that I don't want to be associated with.

I'm guessing that you came up with the logo yourself and I'm very, very impressed. i like it a lot. So lay it on my buddy, what does "ICF" mean?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Matt Helm

The Compact Cars look incredible! And I'm totally on board with a unique logo instead of Marvel. In fact, I think the logo you created looks awesome and would love to keep that on there BUT... I have to ask what "ICF" means before I officially give a thumbs up. I mean, it could be some secret message for some cult or hate group that I don't want to be associated with.

I'm guessing that you came up with the logo yourself and I'm very, very impressed. i like it a lot. So lay it on my buddy, what does "ICF" mean?

Oops I typed that wrong. It's ICE which stands for Intelligence and Counter-Espionage. Which apparently is the spy organisation that Dean Martin's Matt Helm belonged to.

I didn't make the logo up. Apparently it was used "on the back of the Silencers movie soundtrack and on foreign lobby cards."