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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:49 PM
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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

Probably should specify Unique Heroes, which will also cover Uncommon Heroes. No reason a Common Hero figure 10 spaces away from another Common Hero figure that shares its card should be affected by Freeze Blast.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

Yeah, I tend to agree. Thanks, Hahma. Didn't have the brainpower to suss that one out.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

When I wrote the power I intended to include Event Heroes also. I'm if we decide not to for simplicity sake.
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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

"Unique or Event Hero" has been used before and it's pretty simple.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

I don't mind keeping Event Heroes out... since they're fundamentally powerful and all that.

Would the Anti-Monitor be slowed down by a little ice?
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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

Yeah, good point. Thematically, going just Unique Heroes probably works best. It's a shame it won't work better with squaddies, though.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

SP updated. I believe this is ready for an initial when you have a chance Bats. Thanx.
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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

Cool. It's number one on my "to do" list and will hopefully happen over the course of this week.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (ICE)

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
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- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
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- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
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- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
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- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
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- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
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- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
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- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.

- What should be the unit's point value? 130-140.
- Give a brief overview. Ice is a tough match up in one-on-one situations due to how her powers work. She’s also very streaky, because a Blizzard roll can be very all or nothing, and all is very nice one-on-one, whereas nothing isn’t so good. I think her powers will probably be slightly less valuable (because they’ll be easier to avoid) in army tests, so I’d lean towards 130 so far.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.

- What should be the unit's point value? 110-130?
- Give a brief overview. Ice rolled poorly on her attacks and didn’t get enough of a boost from her powers to compensate.
Map: Custom
Units: Ice vs. Beat Cops x2 (130)
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.

- What should be the unit's point value? 110-130?
- Give a brief overview. Ice just doesn’t have a lot of counters to squads, especially if her Blizzard rolls aren’t hitting.
Map: Custom
Units: Ice vs. Street Thugs x2 (150)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.

- What should be the unit's point value? 140-150
- Give a brief overview. Interestingly, while Blizzard was worth less in team play (too hard to keep her teammates out of the range of it to take full advantage, even with Martian Manhunter’s help), her Freeze Blast is worth a lot more, as she managed to put two on Superman, one on Wonder Woman, and one on Batman, that had great effect even when she wasn’t attacking.
Map: Custom
Units: Ice (130), Doctor Fate (290), Huntress (170), Martian Manhunter (300), Oracle (110) (1,000) vs. Superman (450), Batman (250), Wonder Woman (300) (1,000)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.

- What should be the unit's point value? 160+
- Give a brief overview. I figured out how to optimize Ice’s value, especially on a small map with a clustered start zone. Load her up with Order Markers in the first round, especially if Captain Marvel allows you to pull some back if needed, roll for Blizzard on her first turn since she’s not in attack range anyway, then if she hits, go to the enemy startzone and freeze them all up, then attack their biggest heavy hitter until their defense is nothing due to freeze markers.
Map: Custom
Units: Ice (150), Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) (360), Green Lantern (Guy Gardner) (320), Blue Beetle (160), Green Construct (Mech Warrior) (120), Booster Gold (290) (1,400) vs. Darkseid (380), Parademon Shock Troopers x6 (480), Deadshot (150), Weather Wizard (100), Ragdoll (100), Bane (190) (1,400)
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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

I was starting to think thematically that Freeze Blast shouldn't work against any figure with the Ice Resistance special power, and then I realized that her power markers are the exact same as Mister Freeze's, which is fine, except that she'll trigger her power with any of his markers as well. So a move to the Ice Resistance exception would be needed not to cripple Mister Freeze if he's on the playing field at the same time as her.

That said, I'm not sure if that crossover with Mister Freeze is intentional anyway, because a marker from either of their cards would stack in effect from both of their powers like an Uncommon Hero. We should probably work around that somehow.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

OK, I see the thematic side of that is already covered in a line at the end of the power.

That said, I think the best solution here is to change the name of the marker from "blue Ice Marker." If it's not the same marker as the one Mister Freeze has, the powers won't stack.

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Re: The Book of Ice - Design phase

Also, for Blizzard, I think we should specify that they can't use any special powers on any Army Card or Glyph during their turn. I don't believe the intent here is to cancel out Spidey-Sense and the like.

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