The Book of Harley Quinn (Classic)

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Schulzy

This may be a stupid question, but there was some contention about it. Since Smilex Bomb doesn't attack a figure, can Harley use it to to bomb a far space even if she is engaged?

It does attack figures, though. It's a special attack. That's what it does. It just doesn't target the figures (at least not in the normal way).

But, yeah, can't be used while she's engaged, unless, theoretically, she wanted to choose an adjacent figure's space to bomb. I guess she could do that.

[Hahma]

While it targets a space, whether a figure occupies that space or is near it, it is still a special attack. As such, it can't be used against other figures if she is engaged. If it were a special power in the strictest sense (not being a special power that was also a special attack), then she could use it against other figures while she was engaged.

While it can be a tactic to engage her to keep her from using the Smilex against others, she can still disengage to use it and risk taking a leaving engagement wound.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Hahma

While it targets a space, whether a figure occupies that space or is near it, it is still a special attack. As such, it can't be used against other figures if she is engaged. If it were a special power in the strictest sense (not being a special power that was also a special attack), then she could use it against other figures while she was engaged.

While it can be a tactic to engage her to keep her from using the Smilex against others, she can still disengage to use it and risk taking a leaving engagement wound.

This is the way I would rule it also.

[Schulzy]

Originally Posted by A3n

This is the way I would rule it also.

Sweet, thanks. That's what I ruled it as also. As a result, I lost OMs 2 and 3 on my Hand Ninja, which gave me the time to log onto Heroscapers and ask weather or not Harley could use her bomb while engaged...

That brings up the question of weather or not could she target the space an engaged figure is standing on with the bomb?

[IAmBatman]

I would think yes. Tactically it's not that sound, though, since she's exposing herself to the blast.

[johnny139]

Hmm, so she couldn't choose a space that would simply affect the engaged figure? How does that ruling work for Cyclops and Black Canary?

[Schulzy]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I would think yes. Tactically it's not that sound, though, since she's exposing herself to the blast.

For 6 dice in a 3 space radius, that's sometimes okay.

[Hahma]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Hmm, so she couldn't choose a space that would simply affect the engaged figure? How does that ruling work for Cyclops and Black Canary?

It would affect Harley too, but could be worth the risk depending on the situation. I mean if there are a bunch of enemy figures within 2 spaces of the figure she's engaged with, then you might risk Harley's safety for a chance of affecting a bunch of other figures. Acrobatic Maneuvers wouldn't help her since it only works against an opponent's attack.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Hmm, so she couldn't choose a space that would simply affect the engaged figure? How does that ruling work for Cyclops and Black Canary?

Easily answered:

"Range Special. Attack 4.
Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Black Canary. All figures on those 3 spaces, and all figures adjacent to those 3 spaces are affected by Black Canary's Canary Cry Special Attack. Roll 4 attack dice once for all affected figures. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. Black Canary is not affected by her Canary Cry Special Attack. Symbiotes roll 1 less defense die against Canary Cry Special Attack."

"Range Special. Attack 5.
Choose 7 spaces in a straight line from Cyclops. All figures on those spaces who are in line of sight are affected by Cyclops' Optic Blast Special Attack. Roll 5 attack dice once for all affected figures. Affected figures roll defense dice separately."

[johnny139]

No, I mean... hmm, how can I phrase this... with Optic Blast, you're not "targeting" the figure he's engaged with, you're simply choosing 7 spaces. You're choosing six spaces not occupied by the figure he's engaged with. If Harley can't choose a space to bomb other than the figure she's engaged with, why can Cyclops choose to fire on spaces?

I feel like it depends on the timing of the 7 spaces chosen for this question to make sense though.

[SirGalahad]

Go back to Hahma's comment above: Since it's a special attack, if Cyclops were engaged, he would only be able to choose those spaces starting with the space occupied by the figure he was engaged with.

[johnny139]

Hmm, I suppose the main difference is the order of spaces chosen... with the straight line, you have to first choose an adjacent space, while with the bomb the first chosen would be non-adjacent in that case.