H101 customs. [Updated]

[Heroscaper 101]

This Troll get no additional attack dice like the Feral Troll. The Troll may attack any or all opponent's figure adjacent to Xul'drek.

[superfrog]

I'd guess he's too expensive, but he's nice and simple.

[MrNobody]

Yeah, simple isn’t a bad thing at all. I don’t know if I mentioned, but I like the high life and low defense with regenerate. It’s evocative.

If this is the design you’re happy with, why not try running some playtests?

[Heroscaper 101]

Is Xul'drek greater than or less than the Feral Troll.

[superfrog]

I bet you can answer that question yourself.

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by superfrog

I bet you can answer that question yourself.

Xul'drek can attack all adjacent, but has 4 attack which stays the same unless enhanced by height, auras and other things. Then there is the Feral Troll who gets 3 extra attack with Blood Frenzy, has 3 base attack unless enhanced by anything. Xul'drek costs 120 points, he is a unique hero and there is the Feral Troll which costs 90 points, also a uncommon hero which means you can have multiple of the Feral Troll.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Heroscaper 101

Xul'drek can attack all adjacent, but has 4 attack which stays the same unless enhanced by height, auras and other things. Then there is the Feral Troll who gets 3 extra attack with Blood Frenzy, has 3 base attack unless enhanced by anything. Xul'drek costs 120 points, he is a unique hero and there is the Feral Troll which costs 90 points, also a uncommon hero which means you can have multiple of the Feral Troll.

Okay, so each Uncommon counts as a Unique Hero, so there's basically no benefit for being an Uncommon.

Your troll has almost the exact same stats as the feral troll, but yours has 1 more attack.

Your troll has Whirlwind Assault, which allows him, if positioned correctly, to attack a whole bunch of figures. Feral Troll can get a big attack boost on a wounded figure. Which of these powers is better?

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Okay, so each Uncommon counts as a Unique Hero, so there's basically no benefit for being an Uncommon.

Your troll has almost the exact same stats as the feral troll, but yours has 1 more attack.

Your troll has Whirlwind Assault, which allows him, if positioned correctly, to attack a whole bunch of figures. Feral Troll can get a big attack boost on a wounded figure. Which of these powers is better?

Xul'drek can attack 8 or fewer figures adjacent to him. Then there is the Feral Troll can only attack 1 figure. The new troll is good to at destroying which squad figures, which consists more figures. When it comes to the Feral Troll, it might be best to take tanky heroes who have a lot of lives

[MrNobody]

That’s some good analysis! The only thing I’d point out is that Xul’drek can only attack 6 figures - that’s how many can be on hexes adjacent to him.

Can someone help us out here? My sense of classic scape balance is a bit wonky from years of playing mostly C3G.

[superfrog]

Well, if he's double-spaced, he can attack 8.

And you're right, the big benefit here against the Feral Troll is his multi-attack ability.

Where you went a little wrong at the end is who they're good against: Feral Troll is good against heroes with a lot of lives. More lives means more turns that he gets 6 attack dice. Xul'drek is good against squads, since he can get multiple attacks. Especially as a double-spaced figure, it'll be hard for your opponent to avoid setting you up for some multi-attacks.

In the end, I'd probably stick him at 120 points.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by superfrog

Well, if he's double-spaced, he can attack 8.

And you're right, the big benefit here against the Feral Troll is his multi-attack ability.

Where you went a little wrong at the end is who they're good against: Feral Troll is good against heroes with a lot of lives. More lives means more turns that he gets 6 attack dice. Xul'drek is good against squads, since he can get multiple attacks. Especially as a double-spaced figure, it'll be hard for your opponent to avoid setting you up for some multi-attacks.

In the end, I'd probably stick him at 120 points.

Ah, mea culpa, I didn’t realize he was double-spaced.

I don’t know if I read it wrong, but I thought H101 was spot-on with who they’re good against. Feral Troll: Heroes, New Troll: Squads

[Heroscaper 101]

Changed Xul'drek attack to 3 from 4 and he costs 105 points.