The Book of Robin (Damian Wayne)

[Spidey'tilIDie]

What do you think of making Deadly Shot into Deadly Force and using a new power all together?

DEADLY FORCE
When attacking with Robin, each skull rolled counts for one additional hit. If Robin is attacking an adjacent figure he may add one automatic skull to his total number of hits.

OR

DEADLY FORCE
When attacking with Robin, each skull rolled counts for one additional hit. When Robin attacks an adjacent figure he may instead add one automatic skull to his roll.

[Hahma]

Well when he'd have height, which shouldn't be that hard with Bat Grapple, that would be doubling up to 3 skulls plus an auto skull vs. an adjacent figure. Add an Avenger Marker and he gets even nastier.

I know Robin's's's's's'essss get plenty of love Spidey, but an 8 year old shouldn't be that great at fighting. When they are, then C3G has jumped the shark

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Well, what about option B there? It gives an either/ or approach.

[Hahma]

Yeah, I guess that's better than A.

[IAmBatman]

I'm not really looking to add text at this point, per se ....

[quozl]

Yeah, I'm against the addition.

[IAmBatman]

The theme behind Deadly Shot (which also works for adjacent attacks) is that he doesn't have qualms about using deadly force, having been raised by the League of Assassins.

He's also definitely known to act like a spoiled brat! I could have gone with Arrogant as well, but I liked using a new one here.

Thanks!
Bats

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Lets see how I'm gonna do this. I'll probably follow a similar format to david:

Robin (Damien):

Left Box
Everything looks good, not sure if Spoiled is the best fit from what I know of the character. I'd go with Rebellious or something like that.

Stats
I'm assuming the Range is for Batarangs. Everything else makes perfect sense.

Bat Brat
Love the name! I like the mechanics here, and I'm assuming the theme is that Batman is making Robin "sit the next one out" for not following his rules.

Deadly Shot
Not sure this is the best power for him, I mean sure he throws Batarangs, but is he more deadly or accurate with them than Batman?

Bat-Grapple
Well vetted and well chosen power here.

Final Thoughts
Design looks good for our 3rd Robin. I haven't seen this character much, so my thoughts on his Personality and Deadly Shot may be off base, but that's just me.

Originally Posted by Margloth

You know I like it.

Thanks, David! Good eyes! I'll work on making the wording here more consistent!

Cheers,
Bats

Originally Posted by davidlhsl

Robin

Set phasers on fun, because here comes another ERB!

Bat Brat

Hmmmm, now which Vigilante should I draft? Hmmmmm????

Should startzone be two words and capitalized (e.g., Winter Soldier)?

What if Galactus removes the tiles containing your start zone?

Poor Robin gets sent back to his room for being a meanie and killing the bad guys!

Deadly Shot

Vetted (as well as being a great ability)!

Interesting wording differences:

Here: “for one additional”
SHIELD Sniper: “as one additional”
Merlyn: “as an additional” (Which means it slipped by my EPB scans!!! Aaaagh!!!)

Bat Grapple 3

Vetted!

Hrm… Batman/Spoiler have Bat-Grapple w/hyphen, but Robin (Tim Drake) and this doesn’t have it in the title (but it is in the text). Batman/Spoiler say “Instead of his/her normal move,” while this/Tim Drake/Iceman say “Instead of a normal move.”

Final Thoughts

Bat Brat is pretty funny. Robin kills the bad guys for you, and you send him back. Can he at least collect $200 for passing Go?

[IAmBatman]

Updated with Batman/SHIELD Sniper/Winter Soldier wording for the power texts.

[IAmBatman]

The power is definitely meant to be a double-edged sword and show Damian's love/hate relationship with the Vigilantes of Gotham.

If playtesting shows he's too much of a challenge to use, I don't mind seeing his cost drop a bit. He's only 10, after all!

Originally Posted by Porkins

Caveat: I don't know anything about the character.

I'm not getting the theme of Bat Brat, and it seems like it would be more of a hindrance than helpful. To play it, you'd have to stay in LOS of the Vigilante to get the extra turn, but then try to move out of LOS of the Vigilante to whack a figure with Robin. Otherwise, Robin gets reset back to the starting zone. If you do manage to get Robin out of LOS of the Vigilante, now Robin can't bond with the Vigilante, so you either have to spend another OM on Robin to get him back into LOS, or the Vigilante has to stop what he's doing (possibly taking leaving engagement attacks) and come over to get Robin.

If you do get sent back to the starting zone, then again you have to spend OM's on Robin to get him back to the Vigilante, or the Vigilante has to stop what he's doing and come back towards the SZ to get Robin. So Robin isn't seeming very useful. Definitely not a team that synergizes well. (no Dynamic Duo here)

[A3n]

That would be an interesting way to try & play him.

[quozl]

Yep, Batman moves so he's in 6 clear sight spaces of Robin. Then Robin moves out of clear sight to attack. Next turn Batman moves so he's in 6 clear sight spaces of Robin. And Robin moves out of clear sight to attack....

[IAmBatman]

Sounds about right. And with the proliferation of Vigilantes and Sidekicks and helpers such as Alfred and Gordon, there are tons of possibilities.

Not to mention that he could be used in a straight up Sidekick/Titans build as well.