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The Book of Robin (Tim Drake)

The Book of Robin (Tim Drake)

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Arkham Asylum set. Its model number and name are #034 / Robin.
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Character Bio - Tim Drake was actually the third person to take up the mantle of Batman's sidekick, also known as the Boy Wonder or Robin. Though he did not possess the awe-inspiring acrobatic agility of the original Robin, Dick Grayson, or the street honed toughness of the second Robin, Jason Todd, Tim Drake had a few tricks up his sleeve that neither Robin before him possessed. To start with, more than any other Robin, he demonstrated the insight of a detective at a young age, deducing the identities of Batman and the first Robin, Dick Grayson. Armed with this knowledge during the fallout of the second Robin's tragic death, Tim approached Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson directly about the need for there to be a Robin, unleashing a spiral of events that ended with his donning of the mask and cape himself. Under the tutelage of such fighters as Lady Shiva and The Master, Tim Drake grew as a martial arts master in his own right, favoring his collapsible bo staff as a weapon of choice. Briefly thrust into a solo career after Bruce Wayne temporarily hung up the mantle of the Bat, Tim Drake has earned his place at Batman's side as perhaps the cleverest, most savvy of Robins - and certainly the one most like their mentor.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: Can Vigilante Protection prevent opponents' figures from rolling for leaving engagement attacks against Robin?
  • A: No. The word "attack" refers only to normal and special attacks. Leaving engagement attacks are never considered to be "attacks" for the purposes of C3G special powers.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • As a figure with the Vigilante Sidekick special power, Robin may take a turn after a Vigilante you control. Current Vigilantes.
  • Robin cannot be attacked by an opponent's figure engaged with a Vigilante you control due to his Vigilante Protection special power. Current Vigilantes.
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

Immunities
  • N/A
Benefits
  • As a Sidekick, Robin can stop Talia Al Ghul from attacking via her Divided Loyalty special power.
Weaknesses
  • N/A
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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Old June 10th, 2010, 11:35 AM
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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

NAME = ROBIN
SECRET IDENTITY = TIM DRAKE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SIDEKICK
PERSONALITY = DRIVEN

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 120


VIGILANTE SIDEKICK
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Vigilante you control and taking a turn with that Vigilante, if Robin is within 6 clear sight spaces of that Vigilante, you may take an immediate turn with Robin, and you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control. If Robin is adjacent to that Vigilante when attacking an adjacent figure this turn, add 1 die to his attack.

VIGILANTE PROTECTION
If an opponent's figure is engaged with a Vigilante you control, that opponent's figure cannot attack Robin.

BAT GRAPPLE 3
Instead of his normal move, Robin may use his Bat-Grapple. Bat-Grapple has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple, ignore elevations. Robin may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Robin may not grapple more than 30 levels up or down in a single grapple. When Robin starts his Bat-Grapple, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.


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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

I dunno ... I think he hits pretty hard with that Bo Staff.

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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

I went ahead and updated your figure set and model #. Are you sure you don't want to use wither one of these figures instead?



The figure you chose is the best looking, and I know because I have them all, but it is a bigger more adult Tim Drake.
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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

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I dunno ... I think he hits pretty hard with that Bo Staff.
OK, but another Superman counter? I mean his hitting hard is reflected enough by the fact that he hits twice and reduces defense on the second strike... I think you may be a bit too in love with the character.....
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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

Nah, I was just going for the more adult version.

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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

The biggest way to find out if the special attack is too nasty is with HH tests and then with army tests when Robin gets a free turn all the them when playing with Vigilantes. When an opponent's figure is engaged with both Robin and the Vigilante and will have to either attack Bats to face ES or Huntress and face RCS, they will be forced to decide to risk taking a wound from leaving engagement, ES or possible multiple wounds from RCS. Then that Vigilante will get to attack that opponent and then Robin will get his devastating special attack. That can be quite scary. Also, while Robin doesn't have the multiple Batarang ranged attack, his normal ranged attack can be modified easily enough to 4 with height, which again should be easy to gain with a free move and Grapple, which will also help his defense.

His only apparent weakness will be to ranged attacks, so we'll see how that would balance out his special attack and free move. If he's matching 140-150 point HH's then his cost should go up as his other powers definitely have a good bit of value.

Ultimately testing will show how effective his powers are. But if he's taking out 150-200 point figures with that double attack regularly enough, then it will either need to be scaled back or his cost jacked up.

My only concern (not a major one) is with about 400 versions of Robin, are they all going to be badass versions? At some point a sidekick shouldn't be more badass than the more established full-time, prime-time heroes and villains. Once a Robin is established, it can be used by some as a benchmark that says, well if he is this, than this character has to be higher for sure, because if we are going with the most badass version of so in so, then we need to go with the most badass version of so in so, which we haven't been doing in many cases.

Just some observations. I'm not down on this Robin, as long as he shows to not be over powered in testing. I wouldn't really be interested though in a Robin that was at that DD, Punisher or JG level.

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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

I'm not interested in seeing him over 150 points either - and if playtests show him to be, I'll be in favor of dropping his special attack to 3 at that point.
Character wise, I think Tim Drake and Huntress are and should be about on the same level (maybe a slight edge to Tim).

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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

IMO, Tim should be the best Robin. He also has computer skills out the wazzoo. IMO, Attack and possibly Defense should go up 1 (He is the first and only Robin to be trained by not only Batman, but other Martial Artists) and SA Attack should go down to 3. An Attack of 4 with an option of two attacks of 3 is pretty awesome. I could also see changing the 3rd ability to something like this:
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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

With the way he can use the Sidekick power to protect himself, I think 4 defense will be plenty.
I don't want his ranged attack to be better than Batman's.

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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

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He is the first and only Robin to be trained by not only Batman, but other Martial Artists
So you haven't read Red Hood's lost days....
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Re: C3G Robin Tim Drake - Design Phase

He said Robin. Jason was no longer a Robin at that point.

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