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Old January 24th, 2022, 12:28 PM
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - Design

Cool I can go with this art from his first MTG card, as painted by Eric Deschamps:

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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - Design

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PSYCHOMETRY
Start the game with an Artifact Equipment Glyph on this card. Anytime an Equipment Glyph is placed on this card, place a purple Psychometry Marker on its card. ​Dack may use the special powers of any Glyph with a Psychometry Marker on its card as though he was equipped with that Glyph.

GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE
After normally moving or with his Planeswalker special power, if Dack Fayden does not have an Equipment Glyph on his card, you may choose an opponent's adjacent figure and place an Equipment Glyph from that figure's card on this card.
Not that we dropped MD we can break out this into two powers for clarity too.
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - Initial Testing

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Dack Fayden

Version tested:
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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: Dack Fayden (150), Doctor Octopus (Sinister Six), Kraven, Electro, Stilt-Man and Mysterio (1000) VS Fantastic Four
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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: Dack Fayden (150), Amanda Waller, Rick Flag, Scorpion, Abra Kadabra, Hydro Man (1000) VS Crossbones (160), Madame HYDRA (140), Baron von Strucker (210), Red Skull (250), HYDRA Agents (x3) (240)
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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: Dack Fayden (150), Red Skull and Adam Warlock (800) VS Hawkman (Carter Hall), Flash (Jay Garrick), Sandman (Wesley Dodds), Green Lantern (Alan Scott) (800)

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Dack's pretty fun, but I have a tweak I want to make to prevent some of the Glyph cycling shenanagins.
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - Design

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GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE
After moving normally or with his Planeswalker special power, if Dack Fayden does not have two Equipment Glyphs on his card, you may choose an opponent's adjacent figure and place an Equipment Glyph from that figure's card on this card. Dack may never drop or pass Equipment Glyphs he is equipped with and anytime he would receive one or more wounds, he only loses one glyph of your choice.
Think I want to add this phrasing to Greatest Thief. He's not really a sharer so having him be an easy was to bring these glyphs to share since he doesn't need them for long seems kinda unthematic. Right now he would only be able to get a second Glyph by stealing one from another figure (even an ally, he's kinda shady). Wording is a bit rough but I think this will make him play better.
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

I propose we move to public playtesting with the above change.
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

sure

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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

Yuuuuup
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

This passes

SP is updated with the changes for future testing.
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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - VOTE for Public Testing

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Re: The Book of Dack Fayden - Public Testing

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Dack Fayden

Version tested:
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Army Test
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: 800 pts – Captain America 240, Winter Soldier 240(Team-up), Dack Fayden, Spider-Man(Norn Enhanced) 170 VS 800 pts – Wrecking Crew
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Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Shipping Yard
Units: 1000 pts – Doc Ock 250, Trapster, Mysterio, Sandman, Kraven, Dack Fayden VS 1000 pts – Luke Cage, Ronin, Songbird, Spider-Man 250, Daredevil 200
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 150 points seems correct. Works well in Sinister Six builds. Not a ton of Thief synergy currently. Useful in generalist builds.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: When I first read over his design I wasn't sure what to make of him, or how to fit him into a team. Once I started using him I could see his utility. Being able to use multiple Glyphs that he doesn't have equiped any more is much stronger than I thought. And his Planeswalking ability to move 6 spaces is pretty big in setting up a Glyph steal or for gaining height. He didn't do a ton of damage in either game but that was due to poor rolls more than anything else. He's certainly a figure I'd think of using if I needed 150 point figure. No changes recommended.
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