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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:27 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
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Whenever you reveal an Order Marker, if Shadow Thief is on this card and not destroyed, you may immediately place Shadow Thief on any empty space not adjacent to any other figures.
Do we want this to be "may"? I think it might be better if it were "must".
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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:28 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
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Whenever you reveal an Order Marker, if Shadow Thief is on this card and not destroyed, you may immediately place Shadow Thief on any empty space not adjacent to any other figures.
Do we want this to be "may"? I think it might be better if it were "must".
No, we want him to stay off the board for as long as he wants. He's just useless while he's off the board. Why force him to come back? Total theme break for me if we do force him to.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:30 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
You can always put him back on the card at the end of his turn:

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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:33 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
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You can always put him back on the card at the end of his turn:

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After taking a turn with Shadow Thief, if he did not attack or attacked and did not cause any wounds, you may immediately place him on this card.
Yeah, but what if you want to take a turn with someone else? I'm with the LD here. He should feel elusive, and forcing him back on the battlefield doesn't accomplish that.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
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You can always put him back on the card at the end of his turn:

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After taking a turn with Shadow Thief, if he did not attack or attacked and did not cause any wounds, you may immediately place him on this card.
But from what I was thinking (my interpretation of the power) He could be placed back when you revealed any OM on your army. So if I took him off, took my next turn with Wolverine, he would apear again, which could endanger him if I don't have another OM on him.

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But from what I was thinking (my interpretation of the power) He could be placed back when you revealed any OM on your army.
I missed that! You might want to say "when you reveal an Order Marker on any Army Card you control".
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But from what I was thinking (my interpretation of the power) He could be placed back when you revealed any OM on your army.
I missed that! You might want to say "when you reveal an Order Marker on any Army Card you control".
Good idea.

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Old November 10th, 2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
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DIMENSIOMETER
After taking a turn with Shadow Thief, if he did not attack or attacked and did not cause any wounds, you may immediately place him on this card. Order Markers may still be placed and revealed on this card as normal. If Shadow Thief was engaged when using Dimensiometer, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
Whenever you reveal an Order Marker on any Army Card you control, if Shadow Thief is on this card and not destroyed, you may immediately place Shadow Thief on any empty space not adjacent to any other figures.

I think this may need to be split into two powers, like so:

DIMENSIOMETER
Whenever you reveal an Order Marker on any Army Card you control, if Shadow Thief is on this card and not destroyed, you may immediately place Shadow Thief on any empty space not adjacent to any other figures.

INTO THE SHADOWS
After taking a turn with Shadow Thief, if he did not attack or attacked and did not cause any wounds, you may immediately place him on this card. Order Markers may still be placed and revealed on this card as normal. If Shadow Thief was engaged when using Into The Shadows, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

("attacked without causing wounds" is awkward - I'd just drop it)
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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
I agree with making it two powers also what about what about this change?
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After taking a turn with Shadow Thief, if he did not attack or attacked and did not cause any wounds, you may immediately place him on this card. Order Markers may still be placed and revealed on this card as normal. If Shadow Thief was engaged when using Dimensiometer, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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It's pretty hard to hit a guy when he's not on the battlefield ... that's what we were going for there ...
True that but when he is on the board he is gonna go down crying in a heap, but I suppose that this would still be enough to get the themey feel for him.
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But from what I was thinking (my interpretation of the power) He could be placed back when you revealed any OM on your army.
I missed that! You might want to say "when you reveal an Order Marker on any Army Card you control".
I think it would be cool if he can come back on to the battlefield after any OM reveal, not just your own. (you probably wouldn't want to do it unless it was your own but it gives more opportunity to avoid being off the battlefield when all other figures are destroyed.)

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Re: C3G Sidekick Design: Shadow Thief - Design Phase
This guy is looking great! I have a couple suggestions/comments:

What's the theme behind forcing you to place Shadow Thief adjacent to one of your own figures? In my opinion, it would make more thematic sense if you forced him onto any empty space not engaged to any figure. This way he could pop all over the board. I think that's most thematic.

For a defensive power, you could create a power that allows Shadow Theif to enter his shadow state when he is attacked. This would give him a bit more staying power.

I think an attack of 4 is still a bit too high. I could see him with attack 3. He'd still have 4 with height and with his movement capabilities, he should get height pretty much whenever he wants.

Great job so far, C3G.
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What's the theme behind forcing you to place Shadow Thief adjacent to one of your own figures? In my opinion, it would make more thematic sense if you forced him onto any empty space not engaged to any figure. This way he could pop all over the board. I think that's most thematic.
Um, that how it is already.
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