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Re: The Book of Major Q10
I just play that figures can see all around them. Though I have read that officially Q9 cannot, which I think would mean technically Q10, and possibly Krug and more big figured, cannot.
I don't usually play super competitively though. Oh, I just actually read R˙chean's post, that makes sense. Repaints My Maps Online Maps Customs CoN is FuN
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
@R˙chean
Thanks for your input, and I apologize for making more of your comment than it was and not realizing that post was before the rules team even existed. That FAQ quote on "facing" does make it a lot simpler - basically the double-spaced figure has to face who they attack, even if out of periphery it cannot be behind if their had or body blocks. Again, it really only affects multiple attackers with range that need line of sight/clear sight such as Q9/Q10, Nilfheim, and a Moltenclaw
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
This came up again recently - I may be an a$$ for asking it, but can Q9/Q10 use a special attacks to shoot both in front of and behind them, where the figure's eyes cannot see the figure since a figure is behind him (so the head itself blocks LOS using the "get behind" terminology in the rulebook) and double-space figures cannot flip during attack phase (the best they can do is "shift" on the spaces it is on)? From the FAQ quote above by
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"With double-space figures, facing does matter" it seems the answer is no, but everyone seems to agree this is being too much of a stickler and against the spirit of the rules, even in tournaments.
If I am correct, using the head instead of the eyes as a target point is one of the most abused rules as no one seems to care (including myself most of the time). Nilfheim, Moltenclaw, and other dragons were even erratad to allow their horns as alternative target points in addition to head, specifically for this rule. Maybe we need an "errata" for Q9/Q10 that says you can use any part of the head as a target point, but until then I will start being a stickler, especially since I always play against Q9/Q10, rarely with. C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
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For the sake of casual play, I wish double-spaced figures were allowed to flip throughout their attack phase. It would make them comparable to single-spaced figures who get to rotate at any point during the player's turn, and it would make this issue a little less sticky, IMO. (...where I am defining "sticky" as a situation when a rule is frequently broken even in tournament play, and few seem to care or think the rule is in the spirit of the game.) Last edited by Mr Migraine; April 19th, 2018 at 09:56 AM. Reason: edited to include your edit |
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
I always thought you can draw line of sight through the figure's head (through the target point of course), but once it goes through any other part of the figure (its back, for example), it's an invalid sight line.
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I still stand by my last post, and now refuse to edit the word figured into figures. It has officially been grandfathered in.
Anyways, I thought a couple pictures could either help this conversation reach an end, or spiral out of control further; both of which would be good, right? Given the following situation, where Q10 wants to face that way because there's a figure over there (apparently off the board) that he really wants to shoot. Now, which of these Rats can he shoot, if either. The bottom one, as is somewhat clear in the picture, cannot be seen from Q10's head, so there is no way he can shoot it unless he turned around (which he cannot do during his attack phase). The top one, as you can see in this next picture, can be seen from his head, though the space between his shoulder and his back-hump, and thus can be attacked? Let the nitpicking begin! Repaints My Maps Online Maps Customs CoN is FuN
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I think you're playing it right. He can shoot the high rat but not the low rat.
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The answer, of course, is to turn Q10 around anyway. The game is about having fun, and if you want to shoot at the rats, go for it.
There’s also a rule about leaving minis alone when it’s not your turn and yet CVN was cool with helping his opponent get into engagement on a chokepoint. My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
From the FAQ, pg11:
Major Q9 “Raknar’s Vision” Can Major Q9‟s shoulder pads block his own line of sight? Yes. When checking to see if you have a clear line of sight with Q9, you may want to look behind the targeted figure’s Hit Zone to see if you can see Q9’s head, or the side of his face. He cannot fire directly behind himself. Pretty clear for Q9. Still digging for info for Q10. Casters of Valhalla: THE Competitive HeroScape Podcast!
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
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Re: The Book of Major Q10
Look at Q9's sculpt. He doesn't exactly have a back of his head. That's why he (and Q10) can't attack behind them. You need line of site through the target point, through the head.
Jotun (for example) has LoS in all directions. |
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