The Book of Dark Cave Lair Map

[Taeblewalker]

I don't like the idea of moving the outcrops to the middle.

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

What about a map special rule involving Shadow Tiles that gives a +2 defense against ranged attacks? That'll even out height advantage just fine ...

This might work!

Another way to make the heights more dangerous is to have a rule like lava field damage. At the end of the round, a figure on levels 6-8 has to roll an unblockable die of damage from monsters that lurk on the ceiling (bats and spiders and such).

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker

I don't like the idea of moving the outcrops to the middle.

This might work!

Another way to make the heights more dangerous is to have a rule like lava field damage. At the end of the round, a figure on levels 6-8 has to roll an unblockable die of damage from monsters that lurk on the ceiling (bats and spiders and such).

But these are all rules for scenarios, I thought we here are about the maps only?

Cheers

[Griffin]

I just updated the map. Let me know what you guys think.

[Griffin]

A3N gets the win!

[Taeblewalker]

Originally Posted by A3n

But these are all rules for scenarios, I thought we here are about the maps only?

Cheers

If they are rules specific to the map, then that's ok, I think. Just like my Raelin statue in City Streets.

The idea is that we might want to add these rules to the map itself, regardless of scenario, in the sense of heavy snow, slippery ice, etc. Perhaps we should clarify or discuss the wiggle room we have here, and where we cross the line into scenario creation.

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Griffin

I just updated the map. Let me know what you guys think.

Looks much more balanced and still looks fantastic! I'll give it a test as soon as I can. Same building requirements?

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by quozl

Looks much more balanced and still looks fantastic! I'll give it a test as soon as I can. Same building requirements?

Yes, same requirements.

[A3n]

I still like the map. I wasn't completely opposed to the first one but this one does address any niggling concerns I might have had.

Cheers

[Taeblewalker]

The new version retains the same good ideas from the original, but places the higher ground in the middle. I wouldn't change anything at this point. There need be no special rules for shadow tiles, etc.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker

If they are rules specific to the map, then that's ok, I think. Just like my Raelin statue in City Streets.

The idea is that we might want to add these rules to the map itself, regardless of scenario, in the sense of heavy snow, slippery ice, etc. Perhaps we should clarify or discuss the wiggle room we have here, and where we cross the line into scenario creation.

Yeah, this was what I had in mind when I said "map specific rules." I was actually thinking of "Under the El" as a model, where the "electrified tracks" are a map specific rule, but don't really create a scenario at all.
I guess I see a big difference between the two ... so the question might be, is this project open to "map specific rules"?
But, sounds like it's a moot point for this map anyway.

[IAmBatman]

By the way, looked at the new version of the map, and while I found the original to be more aesthetically pleasing, this one is probably more competitively balanced.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

By the way, looked at the new version of the map, and while I found the original to be more aesthetically pleasing, this one is probably more competitively balanced.

So what is more important to you for this map, aesthetically pleasing or competitively balanced?