The Book of Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)

[Griffin]

Or you could give John this power and not have to create a basket:

CONSTRUCTIVE SUPPORT
Whenever you move a Green Construct that was created by John Stewart, you may choose up to 3 unengaged friendly small or medium figures adjacent to the Green Construct. After you move the Green Construct, place the chosen figures adjacent to the Green Construct.

I like this the best, but the idea is to show you that there are still lots of options left on the table without having to butcher the already solid Construct Creation power.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Honestly, I would like to see your power idea and the current one married, Griff. Something like:

WILL POWER EXPRESSION
If a Construct you control is adjacent to this Green Lantern, an opponent's figure may not attack this Green Lantern with a normal or special attack. If that Green Construct is attacked with a normal attack and receives enough wounds to be destroyed, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 17 or higher, the Green Construct takes no damage.


The name needs work, but I think it gives Kyle the OOMPH he needs. I was going for something involving art and willpower in the name.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

Honestly, I would like to see your power idea and the current one married, Griff. Something like:

WILL POWER EXPRESSION
If a Construct you control is adjacent to this Green Lantern, an opponent's figure may not attack this Green Lantern with a normal or special attack. If that Green Construct is attacked with a normal attack and receives enough wounds to be destroyed, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 17 or higher, the Green Construct takes no damage.


The name needs work, but I think it gives Kyle the OOMPH he needs. I was going for something involving art and willpower in the name.

I word smithed it a bit, but I like it. That is me, Hahma, and you in favor of it, with A3n and Necro undecided, and GreyOwl, Whitestuff, and Bats abstaining. Lets wait to see what A3n and Necro say and then hopefully we will move on.

WILL POWER EXPRESSION
If a Green Construct that was created by this Green Lantern is adjacent to this Green Lantern, an opponent's figure may not attack this Green Lantern with a normal or special attack. If a Green Construct that was created by this Green Lantern is attacked with a normal or special attack and receives enough wounds to be destroyed, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 17 or higher, the Green Construct takes no damage.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

There are no other ways to attack in HS so you don't need to qualify that it's a normal or special. But I am over this so let's move on. I still stand by what I have said, & I still don't think a 20% chance of saving a construct from being destroyed is enough for Kyle, but I am over this discussion. I don't think I would ever pay the cost to draft this Kyle & a construct.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

There are no other ways to attack in HS so you don't need to qualify that it's a normal or special. But I am over this so let's move on. I still stand by what I have said, & I still don't think a 20% chance of saving a construct from being destroyed is enough for Kyle, but I am over this discussion. I don't think I would ever pay the cost to draft this Kyle & a construct.

Cheers

Well there are a couple of official powers that do qualify them as normal and special attacks..... and don't forget, Leaving Engagment attacks are attacks.

We could lower the roll for saving Constructs, that way they are being used as meat shields for Kyle, and they have a chance of avoiding death.... I think that would make him pretty darn useful once we create more constructs, and I think that he should be pretty expensive, at least on par with Hal now. By dropping the D20 roll, would you feel more comfortable drafting him?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Well there are a couple of official powers that do qualify them as normal and special attacks..... and don't forget, Leaving Engagment attacks are attacks.

We could lower the roll for saving Constructs, that way they are being used as meat shields for Kyle, and they have a chance of avoiding death.... I think that would make him pretty darn useful once we create more constructs, and I think that he should be pretty expensive, at least on par with Hal now. By dropping the D20 roll, would you feel more comfortable drafting him?

Not particular, & that might be because of the only construct we have at the moment. It is supposed to be an offensive construct but to move anywhere on the battlefield you move Kyle then instead of attacking with Kyle you get to do something with the construct. Ok so Kyle just moved so the construct is now no good as a meat shield unless you move the construct next to him but if you do that you can't attack with the construct. I wouldn't want to draft 2 units that tie up so much points in doing next to nothing except keeping Kyle around longer.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

Not particular, & that might be because of the only construct we have at the moment. It is supposed to be an offensive construct but to move anywhere on the battlefield you move Kyle then instead of attacking with Kyle you get to do something with the construct. Ok so Kyle just moved so the construct is now no good as a meat shield unless you move the construct next to him but if you do that you can't attack with the construct. I wouldn't want to draft 2 units that tie up so much points in doing next to nothing except keeping Kyle around longer.

Cheers

Dude... you don't understand how the powers work.... (without the "F")

Move Kyle, instead of attacking with Kyle, take a full turn with the Construct.

[Griffin]

While this Green Construct is in play, you may take a turn with this Green Construct instead of attacking with the chosen Green Lantern, and this Green Construct may only attack, be moved, or take a turn in this manner.

Do you get it now?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Do you get it now?

Ok but my bad, I kept missing that part when I read the construct power. I was reading "may only attack or be moved in this manner" . So now that I have that straight it might be worth the draft.

Nothing more to see here, move along.

Cheers

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

Ok but my bad, I kept missing that part when I read the construct power. I was reading "may only attack or be moved in this manner" . So now that I have that straight it might be worth the draft.

Nothing more to see here, move along.

Cheers

This brought a smile to my face. Thanks for owning that one mate.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Yeah, I had the same epiphany last night. It is kindaembarassing, but I think understandable when we take into account that none of us get paid to do this, its a side gig.

On another note, I am cool with roll being bumped down. Maybe to 16+ that way its a 25% chance of success. Ideally I'd like it to be a low roll and get more difficult each time he used it, but this card just doesn't have space for that much wordiness.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

Yeah, I had the same epiphany last night. It is kindaembarassing, but I think understandable when we take into account that none of us get paid to do this, its a side gig.

On another note, I am cool with roll being bumped down. Maybe to 16+ that way its a 25% chance of success. Ideally I'd like it to be a low roll and get more difficult each time he used it, but this card just doesn't have space for that much wordiness.

Or leave it at 17 (maybe even up it to 18 ) & add 1 to the roll for each battery marker on his card.