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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

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For the record, I'm A-OK with the power set as is. It'll be nice to add a more elegant design to the ranks. Not everything has to push the envelope to be worthwhile.
Yeah, this is one where I'm more worried about capturing the feel of the character than I am about adding some new mechanics or blowing anyone away.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

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I like him. Only change I might make is to lower his range to 5.
I like it at 6, but I could be convinced to lower it. Jack's got decent aim, but tends to get up close. What's everybody else think?

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 08:49 AM
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

I'm good either way. He's a character I'm more aware of than overly familiar with.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

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I like him. Only change I might make is to lower his range to 5.
I like it at 6, but I could be convinced to lower it. Jack's got decent aim, but tends to get up close. What's everybody else think?
I like it at 6.
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Don't know the character at all. I just consider 5 the normal handgun/street level range (The Batfamily's batarangs go that far for the most part). If he can shoot better then that, 6 is the way to go.

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Is this the same character?
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p1051867.html

Because that mini looks way better than the Cosmic Justice one.
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

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Don't know the character at all. I just consider 5 the normal handgun/street level range (The Batfamily's batarangs go that far for the most part). If he can shoot better then that, 6 is the way to go.
Exactly, he uses the Cosmic Rod which draws on cosmic energy & add to that his practiced accuracy, 6 is definitely the way to go.
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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Sounds like most are in favor of 6 Range. I'm gonna end this one out the the ERB and hopefully have the initial done by the end of the weekend.

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Is this the same character?
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p1051867.html

Because that mini looks way better than the Cosmic Justice one.
Yep, that's Jack. I had forgotten that he got another mini. I'm usually not a fan of special effects on my miniatures, but that one's still better than the weird kneeling pose on the Cosmic Justice mini. Let's go with the one you posted.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

6 is fine by me.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

ERBs from dok, Magloth, and Tickle:

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Hey! Love this design. I'm a little rusty so I appreciate the simplicity here. Seems like the type of hero you would save till the late game for cleanup. Occasionally gaining a turn or two when one of your heroes meets an early demise. Not familiar with this character, but seems like a fun design to play. Good job.
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Regularly throwing 5 attack dice seems like it might be a *little* strong for Jack Knight (I might go with 3 base attack, especially with his threat range, but I dunno) but other than that I love everything I see here!
I'd prefer to stick with a base Attack of 4. 3 Attack against any Flying figures is just too low for a single-attacking, non-synergistic Hero.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

He strikes me as powerful enough to throw 5 attack on the regular.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

I think so too, 5 is certainly not out of his range.

Here's another ERB, this time from david:

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Starman

This isn’t from the Jeff Bridges movie, is it?

Reluctant Hero
Since I have a nice habit of putting Order Markers on the figure that gets KO in the first turn, having something like this can be handy.

Would you want to be able to move OM’s from a squad/common figure’s card?

Force Field X
Another handy ability, but protecting Starman with the X will potentially nerf Reluctant Hero until the X is used.

Aerial Advantage
Vetted via Falcon, and I think this a fantastic ability that should probably have been built into the standard Heroscape Flying ability.

Final Thoughts
The value of protecting Starman with the X OM may override the potential benefit of getting the markers via Reluctant Hero, though using the Force Field will potentially put it into play.
I had overlooked the interplay between Forcefield and Reluctant Hero, but I'm okay with it unless playtesting shows it makes him too weak.

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Re: The Book of Starman (Jack Knight) - Design Phase

Yeah, we could make one or less OMs on this card, if needs be.
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