The Book of Hellcat

[IAmBatman]

Down to SirG or time here already!

[Hahma]

This passes on time.

[SirGalahad]

post-yea

Sorry.

[Hahma]

No problem Sir G. I've been there.

[Hahma]

From Zettian Juggernaut:

Here's my Playtest:

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Hellcat)

- THEME TEST/Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/Pass.

- BONDING TEST/Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/Pass, though she might be pretty in a Fan Four army.

- POWER CHECK/Pass.

- FUN TEST/Pass.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/Pass.

- USAGE TEST/Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/Pass.
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Army Test 1
- Does she pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 80.
- Give a brief overview. Hellcat just about made up her points.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage: 3 wounds to Selene.
Power Usage:
Mystical Senses: time(s) moved 5 out of 6 round(s); pretty useful.
Cable-Claw 3: averagely useful.
Map: Ravaged Road (no glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Invisible Woman, Mister Fantastic, The Thing, Iceman, Hellcat (1005) VS Army 2: Professor X, Shedowcat, Bishop, Jean Grey, Selene Gallio (1010)

Spoiler Alert!

First Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat moves out).
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Jean moves up and fails to pull Xavier; Selene moves out.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic moves out.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Jean moves up a little and pulls Xavier up; Shadowcat moves up.
ARMY ONE: Invisible Woman moves out and destroys a Evergreen Tree; Thing moves out and destroys another Evergreen Tree; Iceman moves out destroys an Evergreen Tree; Mr. Fantastic stays put.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene moves over and puts 1 wound on Iceman; Jean fails to throw Xavier.
ARMY ONE: Thing moves over; Mr. Fantastic moves over and fails to do damage.

Second Round: (Bishop is placed) Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat moves up).
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Jean moves over and fails both Telekinesis and her attack; Bishop moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Thing moves down and puts 1 wound on Selene; Mr. Fantastic fails to do damage.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Jean throws Mr. Fantastic over, but fails to wound him; Selene puts 2 wounds on Thing.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat Cable-Claws over and puts 1 wound on Selene; Thing fails to do damage; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Jean.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene removes 1 wound puts it on Thing; Jean throws Thing over and puts 1 wound with Throwing Damage, then puts 1 more wound on Thing (5t wounds).
ARMY ONE: Thing can’t move up, then puts 2 wounds on Jean; Mr. Fantastic finishes her.

Third Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat Cable-Claws back).
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene moves a little and puts 2 wounds on Invisible Woman; Bishop fails to kill Thing.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic moves over and puts 1 wound on Selene.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Bishop moves over and fails to do damage to Thing; Selene removes 1 wound and places it on Invisible Woman.
ARMY ONE: Thing moves over and puts 1 wound on Selene; Hellcat Cable-Claws over and puts 1 wound on Selene; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Selene.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene removes 1 wound and places it on Invisible Woman; Bishop fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Selene.

Fourth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat Cable-Claws over).
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene removes 1 wound and places it on Invisible Woman, which kills her; Bishop moves down and kills Thing.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat Cable-claws over and puts 1 wound on Selene; Iceman puts 1 wound on Selene; Mr. Fantastic Stretch Walks over on height, but fails to wound Selene.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene removes 1 wound and puts it on Mr. Fantastic; Bishop moves up and fails to wound Hellcat.
ARMY ONE: Iceman fails to do any wounds; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Selene.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene moves 1 wound from her card to Mr. Fantastic; Bishop puts 2 wounds on Hellcat.
ARMY ONE: Iceman puts 1 wound on Selene; Mr. Fantastic fails to do a wound.

Fifth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat moves away).
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Selene fails to remove a wound; Bishop moves over and puts 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY ONE: Iceman kills Selene; Mr. Fantastic fails to wound Bishop.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Bishop kills Mr. Fantastic; Kitty moves up.
ARMY ONE: OM lost on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Bishop moves up and fails to do damage; Kitty moves over.
ARMY ONE: OM lost on Mr. Fantastic.

Sixth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Bishop attacks Iceman and kills him (Iceman didn’t roll a shield); Kitty moves over and fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: OM lost on Iceman.
ARMY TWO: Mutant Mind Link: Bishop puts 1 wound on Hellcat; Kitty moves even and kills Hellcat with 1 skull.

Army 2 wins with unwounded Professor X, unwounded Shadowcat, and unwounded life Bishop.

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Army Test 2
- Does she pass? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 80-100.
- Give a brief overview. Hellcat did about 180 points worth and took a few attacks.
Unit Sum-up:
Damage: 2 wounds on Silver Banshee and 6 wounds to Spawn.
Power Usage:
Mystical Senses: time(s) moved 6 out of 10 round(s); very useful.
Cable-Claw 3: pretty useful.
Map: Ravaged Road (no glyphs).
Units: Army 1: Invisible Woman, Mister Fantastic, Jocasta, Plastic Man, Hellcat (855) VS Army 2: Baron Zemo, Silver Banshee, Trapster, Spawn (855)

Spoiler Alert!

First Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat moves out).
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn moves out.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic moves out.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Silver Banshee moves out.
ARMY ONE: Invisible Woman moves out; Mr. Fantastic moves up.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Silver Banshee moves over and puts 2 wounds on Invisible Woman that had height.
ARMY ONE: Jocasta moves up; Invisible Woman moves back a little and fails to wound Silver banshee; Hellcat Cable-Claws up and puts 1 wounds on Silver Banshee; Mr. Fantastic fails to do a wound.

Second Round: Initiative goes to Army 1 (Hellcat Cable-Claws back).
ARMY ONE: Invisible Woman puts 1 wound on Silver Banshee; Hellcat Cable-Claws back up and fails; Jocasta also fails to do wounds; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Silver Banshee.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Accursed Wail puts 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Hellcat, and Jocasta, then attacks Hellcat, but fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man moves 8 spaces out; Hellcat fails to wound Silver Banshee; Mr. Fantastic also fails.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Accursed Wail puts 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Hellcat, and Jocasta, then attacks Hellcat, but Jocasta takes 1 wound from that attack.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat kills Silver Banshee; Invisible Woman moves over; Mr. Fantastic moves over also.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn moves up and fails to wound Mr. Fantastic.

Third Round: Initiative goes to Army 2 (Hellcat moves over).
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn moves down and fails to wound Invisible Woman.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat Cable-Claws even and fails to do damage; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound on Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn fails with his SA.
ARMY ONE: Invisible Woman moves up and away, then fails to wound Spawn; Plastic Man moves up and puts 2 wounds on Spawn; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 more wound on Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 4 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Jocasta moves up and fails to roll a skull; Plastic Man puts 2 wounds on Spawn; Mr. Fantastic fails to do a wound.

Fourth Round: Initiative goes to Army 1 (Hellcat Cable-Claws up).
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic puts 2 wounds on Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 5 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man fails to damage; Mr. Fantastic also fails to do any wounds.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn pulls Hellcat down and wounds, then his special attack fails to do damage.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat moves up and puts 1 wound on Spawn; Mr. Fantastic puts 2 wounds on Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn kills Jocasta.

Fifth Round: Initiative goes to Army 1 (Hellcat moves back).
ARMY ONE: Hellcat Cable-Claws back and puts 3 wounds on Spawn (8t wounds); Plastic Man fails to wound Spawn; Mr. Fantastic also fails to wound Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 3 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man fails to wound Spawn; Hellcat puts 1 wound on Spawn; Invisible Woman fails to wound Spawn; Mr. Fantastic puts 1 wound.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 2 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic puts 2 wounds on Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 2 wounds.

Sixth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn heals 3 wounds.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man puts 1 wound on Spawn; Mr. Fantastic fails to wound Spawn.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn fails to wound Hellcat with his SA.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man rolls 4 skulls on Spawn, but only does 1 wound; Mr. Fantastic fails o roll a skull.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Spawn fails to wound Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man puts 3 wounds on Spawn (8t wounds); Hellcat fails to finish him; Mr. Fantastic also fails.

Seventh Round: Initiative goes to Army 1 (Hellcat moves back).
ARMY ONE: Hellcat kills Spawn; Mr. Fantastic Stretch Walks up.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Trapster moves out.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man moves over; Invisible Woman moves over as well; Mr. Fantastic moves forward.
ARMY TWO: Masters of Evil: Trapster moves up and places a Paste Pot Marker on Plastic Man, then attacks but takes 3 wounds from I’m Rubber, You’re Glue.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat moves over; Plastic Man finishes Trapster; Invisible Woman moves down; Mr. Fantastic moves down.
ARMY TWO: Zemo moves up and fails to wound Mr. Fantastic.

Eighth Round: Initiative goes to Army 1.
ARMY ONE: Mr. Fantastic’s turn is stopped by Zemo.
ARMY TWO: Zemo moves up and kills Invisible Woman.
ARMY ONE: Hellcat Cable-Claws over and fails to wound Zemo; Plastic Man moves up and fails to wound Zemo; Mr. Fantastic moves over and puts 1 wound on Zemo.
ARMY TWO: Zemo kills Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY ONE: OM lost on Mr. Fantastic.
ARMY TWO: Zemo fails to wound Hellcat.

Ninth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: Zemo fails to wound Hellcat.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man’s turn stopped.
ARMY TWO: Zemo kills Hellcat.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man fails to wound Zemo.
ARMY TWO: Zemo puts 2 wounds Plastic Man that had Height.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man puts 1 wound on Zemo.

Tenth Round: Initiative goes to Army 2.
ARMY TWO: Zemo fails to wound Plastic Man.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man’s turn stopped.
ARMY TWO: Zemo fails to wound Plastic Man.
ARMY ONE: Plastic Man kills Zemo.

Army 1 wins with 3 life Plastic Man.

[Hahma]

She did some damage, but the second test her team barely won, while the first test they lost pretty good. Hopefully we'll see some tests that aren't only FF4 builds.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, 80 looks like it's holding steady thus far.

[Hahma]

From Blink:

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Hellcat

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or NoYes .
- What should be the unit's point value? 70-80.
- Give a brief overview. This was not a very good battle for Hellcat.
Map: Dark Dimension.
Units: Hellcat(80), Batman(250), Commissioner Gordon(90), Boomerang(130), Robin(Tim Drake)(120), and Alfred Pennyworth(60) Vs Doctor Fate(290), Ghost Rider(380).

Spoiler Alert!

Batman took with him his utilities:Infrared Goggles, First Aid Kit, and Bat-Grapple, and Gordon chose Batman as his vigilante. Hellcat advanced with her Cable-Claw 3 Special Power.
R1
Hellcat advanced with her Cable-Claw 3 Special Power.
Turn 1: Fate teleported forward with Ghost Rider, and Batman and Robin advanced. Turn 2: Ghost Rider advanced, attackd Robin for one wound, and Batman grappled adjacent to Robin and Ghost Rider. Turn 3: Ghost Rider failed to Penance stare Batman, and Batman and Robin fail to wound Ghost Rider.

R2
Hellcat Cable-Clawed forward.
Turn 1: Batman attacked and gave Ghost Rider four wounds and Robin missed Ghost Rider, and Ghost Rider hit Batman with Penance stare and took Batman out. Turn 2: Ghost Rider took attacked Robin and took him out. Turn 3: Fate missed Hellcat.
R3
Hellcat Cable-Clawed adjacent to Fate.
Turn 1: Ghost Rider engaged Boomerang, and Boomerang missed Ghost Rider. [u]Turn 2{/U]: Ghost Rider missed Boomerang, and Boomerang missed Ghost Rider. [u]Turn 3{/U]: Fate missed Hellcat, and Hellcat missed Fate.
R4
Turn 1: Ghost Rider advanced to even height on Boomerang and gave him one wound, and Boomerang missed Ghost Rider with his Returning Boomerang. Turn 2 Ghost Rider attacked and gave Boomerang one wound, and Hellcat missed Fate. Turn 3: Ghost Rider attacked and finished off Boomerang, and Hellcat missed Fate.
R5
Turn 1: Ghost Rider engaged and took out Gordon, and Alfred attacked and missed Ghost Rider.Turn 2: Ghost Rider finished off Alfred, and Hellcat attacked and missed Fate.
Turn 3: Ghost Rider attacked and gave Hellcat 3 wounds. Hellcat finished off Ghost Rider.
R6
Turn 1: Fate finished off Hellcat.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? The magical Demons won with Fate bearing no wounds.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or NoNO.
- What should be the unit's point value? 60-70.
- Give a brief overview. She isn't the strongest against Mutants.
Map: Dark Dimension.
Units: Hellcat(80), Captain America(240), Black Widow(170), Hawkeye(150), S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents(110), Baron Zemo(170) and Dum Dum Dugan(90) vs Mastermind(90), Selene(360), Sage(180), Marrow(220) Armor(100) and Destiny(55).

Spoiler Alert!

Baron Zemo chose Hellcat, Captain America, Black Widow, Dum Dum Dugan, and Hawkeye as his Masters of Evil, and Cap chose Hellcat, Hawkeye, Dum Dum Dugan, Black Widow and Baron Zemo as his Avengers.
R1
Hellcat and Black Widow advanced.
Turn 1: Cap advanced, and Sage advances and enhanced Marrow. Turn 2: Cap advances, and Mastermind and Marrow advanced. Turn 3: Black Widow advanced, and Mastermind and Marrow advanced.
R2
Hellcat Cable-Clawed forward.
Turn 1: Sage engaged and enhanced Destiny, and Cap advanced. Turn 2: Mastermind advanced and engaged Cap and Marrow advanced and engage Cap., and Cap used Shield Throw against Mastermind giving him 3 wounds and Marrow failing to injure her. Turn 3: Marrow attacked and gave Cap one wound, and Cap used Shield Throw againt Mastermind finishing him off and against Marrow failing to injure her.
R3
Hellcat Cable-Clawed forward.
Turn 1: Sage moved adjacent to and enhanced Selene, and Cap attacked Marrow giving her 3 wounds. Turn 2: Marrow attacked Cap giving him no wounds and healing one wound herself, and Black Widow missed Marrow. Turn 3: Marrow attacked and missed Cap and healed one wound herself, and Cap rolled one skull and 5 shields and Marrow rolled 4 shields and gave Cap one wound with her Spike Defence.
Marrow takes one wound from Lava Field damage.
R4
Hellcat Cable-Clawed forward.
Turn 1: Cap attacked and gave Marrow one wound, and Marrow missed Cap and healed. Turn 2: Black Widow attacked and missed Marrow and took a wound herself, and Marrow finished off Cap and healed one. Turn 3: Hawkeye advanced and gave one wound to Marrow, and Marrow attacked and gave Black Widow 3 more wounds, then Marrow healed.
Marrow revealed the 'X' to heal.
R5
Hellcat Cable-Clawed forward.
Turn 1: Marrow finished off Black Widow, and Hellcat attacked Marrow and ended up with one wound. Turn 2: Marrow attacked and finished off Hellcat, and Hawkeye advanced. Turn 3: Marrow attacked and gave Hawkeye one wound, and Hawkeye attacked and gave Marrow one wound.
Marrow revealed the 'X' to heal.
R6
Turn 1: Marrow attacked and gave Hawkeye one wound and took a wound to strike again and finished him off then healed,and Dum Dum Dugan attacked and was blocked. Turn 2: Marrow attacked, missed, took a wound and struck again giving Dugan two wounds and struck again and missed, and Dugan attacked Marrow giving her two wounds. Turn 3: Marrow attacked Dugan giving him one wound, and Dugan attacked Marrow giving her one wound.
Marrow revealed the 'X' to heal and took a wound from Lava Field damage.
R7
Turn 1: Marrow attaked and gave Dugan one wound, and Dugan attacked and missed. Marrow healed.Turn 2: Marrow attacked and missed Dugan and healed. Dugan attacked and missed. Turn 3: Marrow attacked Dugan and healed, and Dugan attacked and gave Marrow one wound.
Marrow healed and took one wound for Lava Field damage.
R8
Turn 1: Dugan attacked Marrow and missed, and Marrow attacked and finished off Dugan. Turn 2: Zemo caught Marrow in his trap. Turn 3: Zemo attacked and missed. Marrow attacked and took out Zemo and one S.H.I.E.L.D. agent.
Marrow revealed the 'X' to heal and took one wound for Lava Field.
R9
Turn 1: Marrow attacked and took out another agent and attacked again taking out the last agent. Marrow healed.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Mutants won with Marrow baring two wounds, and Selene, Sage, Armor and Destiny unwounded.

[IAmBatman]

Hmm, so a close win, a somewhat close loss, and two very solid losses thus far!

[Hahma]

I don't think Eraguy's test is going to show any more conclusive evidence one way ore the other as to Hellcat's cost. Her army won a close one and a big one in my tests, won a close one and lost big for ZJ and lost a couple big ones from Blink, though her first test was kind of having a Hellcats team with some weak heroes (Batman aside) going against a couple tough heavy hitters. Her second test was like ZJ's where it was a convincing loss vs. Mutant army that was kind of tough.

Overall 3 wins (2 close) and 3 losses that were pretty big (though Blink's first one seemed like bad match up). So I don't see anything to suggest that she needs a bump in cost, but see that she could go down a tad just to make her draftable in armies that aren't going against Demons or Magical Defense opponents.

I propose Hellcat move to final editing at 75 points

[Lord Pyre]

Yea

[A3n]

Yea