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Old June 1st, 2012, 07:41 AM
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

Ok it's 2 hours early, but I made the changes anyway.

My question now is, with the change to BUBBLE SUFFOCATION where the markers are returned to this card, how does it work in a mirror match?
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

I think like Uncommon Heroes, players have the burden of sorting that out.
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

We used "your Markers" before to differentiate.

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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

So something like this:
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BUBBLE SUFFOCATION
Start the game with two white Bubble Markers on this card. After moving, before attacking, you may choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Malice and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, place a Bubble Marker from this card on the chosen figure’s Army Card. After each time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may roll an unblockable attack die, one at a time, against each figure other than Malice with a Bubble Marker on its card. Immediately after Malice receives one or more wounds, return all your Bubble Markers in play to this card. If a figure with your Bubble Marker is destroyed, return the Bubble Marker to this card.
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BUBBLE SUFFOCATION
Start the game with two white Bubble Markers on this card. After moving, before attacking, you may choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Malice and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, place a Bubble Marker from this card on the chosen figure’s Army Card. After each time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may roll an unblockable attack die, one at a time, against each figure other than Malice with a Bubble Marker on its card. Immediately after Malice receives one or more wounds, return all your Bubble Markers in play to this card. If a figure with your Bubble Marker is destroyed, return the Bubble Marker to this card.

FORCEFIELD DAGGERS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
Malice can only use this special attack if there was at least one Bubble Marker on this card. You may remove 1 Bubble Marker to add 2 automatic skulls to whatever is rolled.

PERSONAL FORCEFIELD
If there is a least one Bubble Marker on this card, one shield will block all damage.
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BUBBLE SUFFOCATION
Start the game with two white Bubble Markers on this card. Before attacking, you may choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, and the figure is not a Unique Hero, it receives a wound. If you roll 6 or higher and the figure is a Unique Hero, place a Bubble Marker from this card onto its card. Each time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may immediately roll 1 unblockable attack die, one at a time, against each figure with a Bubble Marker on its card. Whenever Malice receives one or more wounds, return all your Bubble Markers in play to this card. If a figure with your Bubble Markers on its card is destroyed, return those Bubble Markers to this card.

FORCEFIELD DAGGERS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
Malice can only use this special attack if there is at least 1 Bubble Marker on this card. After rolling attack dice, you may immediately remove 1 Bubble Marker from this card and add 2 automatic skulls to whatever is rolled.

PERSONAL FORCEFIELD
When defending with Malice, if there is a least 1 Bubble Marker on this card, one shield will block all damage.
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

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Old June 3rd, 2012, 06:03 PM
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

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I haven't come up with a suitable class yet.
Tormentor, maybe? Or Menace?

I'm liking the bubble marker management here and the power selection! Does she need a defense of five given her personal forcefield? I wonder if 4 wouldn't make more sense?

One question ... is the bubble you remove for her Special Attack removed from the game, or is it still "in play" to be put back with her first power? I'm unclear on that one.

As for Griff's edits - they look good on the whole, but I think we need to keep this original text in for the sake of the mirror test:

After each time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may roll an unblockable attack die, one at a time, against each figure other than Malice with a Bubble Marker on its card.

Otherwise she's bubble suffocating an enemy Malice without ever placing a bubble marker on her card.

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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

TORMENTOR it is.

Happy to drop to 4.

The bubble marker removing is a hang over from when she was to start with 4 & loose them as she used them, so it's not appropriate anymore. having said that though I think it does need to be tied back to the markers so I am thinking that the special removes it for the round. We might need to increase the markers to 3 after that but see what you guys think.

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FORCEFIELD DAGGERS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
Malice can only use this special attack if there is at least 1 Bubble Marker on this card. After rolling attack dice, you may immediately remove 1 Bubble Marker from this card and add 2 automatic skulls to whatever is rolled. Bubble Markers removed from this card using this power are returned to this card at the end of the round.
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

Cool. Looking good.

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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

ERB from Porkins:

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Another Home Run Adrian. Very cool design. The tension between distributing and keeping bubble markers should make this a fun one to play.
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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

ERB from Davidlhsl (with my responses mixed in):

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Malice

The first thing I did when I saw this was run to Wikipedia, as Susan Richards sounded familiar. Yes, it’s the Invisible Woman. Oh, this is an evil side of her.

Bubble Suffocation
In a mirror battle where both your Malice and your opponent’s Malice have placed Bubble Markers, would the unblockable die include all the Bubble Markers placed? If you wanted to restrict it to just the Markers your Malice placed, you could say, “other than Malice with your Bubble Marker”.
Ummm....
BUBBLE SUFFOCATION
Start the game with two white Bubble Markers on this card. Before attacking, you may choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 6 or higher, and the figure is not a Unique Hero, it receives a wound. If you roll 6 or higher and the figure is a Unique Hero, place a Bubble Marker from this card onto its card. After each time you reveal a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may roll an unblockable attack die, one at a time, against each figure other than Malice with a Bubble Marker on its card. Whenever Malice receives one or more wounds, return all your Bubble Markers in play to this card. If a figure with your Bubble Markers on its card is destroyed, return those Bubble Markers to this card.

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Could you use the Bubble Suffocation d20 roll on a Common Hero or Squad figure if she doesn’t have any Bubble Markers on her card? The wording indicates she could.
Yes you can with the current wording. I think this would be OK though I will make the others aware.

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Forcefield Daggers Special Attack
I re-read Bubble Suffocation to see if removing a Bubble Marker when using this special attack would return to the card. It appears that it’s removed from the game. You can also decide after seeing what you rolled, which is neat.
Actually, just before sending the ERB to you I suggested this change which Bats has since ok'ed but the others haven't had a chance to chime in.
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FORCEFIELD DAGGERS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 6. Attack 4.
Malice can only use this special attack if there is at least 1 Bubble Marker on this card. After rolling attack dice, you may immediately remove 1 Bubble Marker from this card and add 2 automatic skulls to whatever is rolled. Bubble Markers removed from this card using this power are returned to this card at the end of the round.
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Personal Forcefield
Oh, that’s nice.

Final Thoughts
I love the use of the Bubble Markers in this design. If she dishes out both Markers, she loses her other two abilities. If she uses the Marker to bolster Forcefield Daggers, she’ll lose one of the Markers from the game. Taking a wound brings back her Markers to activate her Personal Forcefield, which is a fantastic form of self-defense.
Would this still be your opinion of the Markers use with that change to Forcefield Daggers SA? & what about if we increased the number of markers to 3?

Thanx for your considered responses.

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Re: The Book of Malice - Design Phase

Like the change to Bubble Suffocation.

I don't mind that she can use it against commons or squaddies w/o a marker on her card. There are so many ways that she is going to get them back during a round that it's not overly likely that she's not going to have a marker on her card for very long. I also doubt that if she would have to lose a marker to use it for squaddie or common figure, that she would opt for that instead of just using her special attack. Sure she couldn't get both in a turn, but unless it's the last turn of a round, why would she risk losing her huge defense boost for a squaddie?

Fine with the change to Daggers.

I'd be fine with her having 3 markers. If it's too powerful in the initial tests, it can be dropped to 2.

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