The Book of Shocker

[tcglkn]

All skulls once he's wounded works for me.

[A3n]

So something like this then...

RECOIL
After making an attack with Shocker, if there are one or more Wound Markers on this card and you roll all skulls for that attack, immediately place 1 Wound Marker on this card.

[IAmBatman]

I think you'd want more like this:

RECOIL
If there is one or more Wound Marker on this card, when attacking with Shocker, if you roll all skulls, Shocker immediately receives one wound.

[Hahma]

All Skulls would be cool, then he might take his last wound but take someone out too.

[A3n]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I think you'd want more like this:

RECOIL
If there is one or more Wound Marker on this card, when attacking with Shocker, if you roll all skulls, Shocker immediately receives one wound.

added to SP

[IAmBatman]

Cool. If my week ever calms down, I'll try grabbing both this guy and Kraven. Oye, though, work's picked up and my nights get busier as the week goes on. So no promises.

[IAmBatman]

Because his gauntlets have you "move" a figure, I'm guessing that terrain rules and elevation apply?
Also, if a figure I'm moving has a special movement ability like flying or Bat-Grapple, would I be able to use it during the move?
Just some rules questions that came up that I don't know how to answer ...
Otherwise, lots of fun so far! I've got most of the heavy hitters done. I'm going to try to finish those up tonight and post what I have, then work on squad and army tests as the week goes on.

[A3n]

Moving is part of standard HS powers so the rules would be the same as there. Don't all the special moving powers say "instead of moving normally"? in which case this isn't.

[IAmBatman]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (SHOCKER)

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS though he’s a powerful pairing with Kingpin

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS (even Recoil, unfortunately for Shocker!)

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 160. He struggled against Green Arrow, but I was still figuring him out and over-relied on the special attack. He still handled Batman easily while I was figuring him out, then performed well against Hawkeye and Spidey. He put some wounds on Huntress, but she felt clearly superior.
- Give a brief overview. All tests were done on a map with one Ice Hill, four Ice Rocks, five Evergreen Trees, and two Manhole Covers.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Green Arrow (150)
Shocker used his special attack early to clear out an Ice Hill, but this just gave Green Arrow clear line of sight. Green Arrow hit a 15 for Skill Shot and put two quick wounds on Shocker. Shocker fired back, and landed one wound on Green Arrow. Green Arrow then attacked twice in melee (thanks to an initiative switch) and finished Shocker off. Recoil didn’t come into play.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Green Arrow with one wound wins Turn 1 Round 2.

TEST 2
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Green Arrow (150)
Green Arrow got another initiative switch and hit 18 on his Skill Shot, putting the last two wounds on Shocker. Green Arrow got a few more shots from height than normal, due to Shocker’s attempt to take advantage of the terrain. He destroyed an Evergreen Tree to put two wounds on Green Arrow (one from the Falling Tree and one from his special attack) but it wasn’t enough.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Green Arrow wins Turn 1 Round 2 with 2 wounds.

TEST 3
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Batman (Terry) (150)
Terry used his Tactical Comlink twice in a row (initiative switch) to hit Shocker with six attack dice (Terry also had height) but couldn’t finish Shocker off. Shocker got two wounds on Terry early by destroying an Evergreen Tree adjacent to him, then followed up with 2 wounds directly on Terry with his special attack (from height disadvantage) on his first turn of Round 2.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker wins Turn 1 Round 2 with 2 wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Batman (Terry) (150)
This time Shocker just attacks Terry directly with his special attack twice in a row, scoring two wounds each turn. Still no Recoil wounds to date.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker wins Turn 3, Round 1 with 2 wounds.

TEST 5
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Spider-man (Hasbro) (160)
Shocker took one of his wounds from a swipe when he disengaged to enable himself to attack a DO next to Spidey without taking a wound himself. He did manage to destroy an Ice Rock to put an easy wound on Spidey (no Spidey-Sense!) but Spidey steered clear of DOs after that and after that he could only attack Spidey directly with his special attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Spidey wins Turn 2, Round 3 with 2 wounds.

TEST 6
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Spider-man (Hasbro) (160)
Shocker, after putting one wound on Spidey with a destroyed Ice Rock, focused on his normal attack and put another 3 wounds on Spidey with it on one missed Spidey-Sense roll.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Spidey wins Turn 1 Round 3 with 4 wounds.

TEST 7
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Hawkeye (160)
No Recoil still. Shocker fell another tree to put two wounds on Hawkeye with it, then finished Hawkeye with his normal attack. Hawkeye put one wound on Shocker early with his Acid Arrow, but couldn’t burn through for an additional wound, then hit Shocker for a second wound in Close Combat.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker wins Turn 1 Round 3 with 2 wounds.

TEST 8
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Hawkeye (160)
Vibroshock Gauntlets were great for pushing Hawkeye out of Close Combat and making him easier to wound. Shocker got two wounds on Hawkeye early by destroying the Evergreen Tree again. Hawkeye got his wounds on Shocker with a normal attack from height and range and an Acid Burn for an extra wound.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker wins Turn 3 Round 2 with 2 wounds.

TEST 9
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Huntress (170)
Shocker failed to destroy an Ice Hill adjacent to Huntress, then Huntress engaged, using an initiative switch to put three straight wounds on Shocker in melee. Shocker responded with his normal attack, rolling all skulls. This is where I wasn’t sure exactly how to handle things. This was enough to put the final wound on Shocker, so he was definitely destroyed. I wasn’t sure whether Huntress still needed to defend the attack or not, though. She did, and took 3 wounds, but Shocker still lost either way. On one hand, the wound hits immediately, so he’s destroyed before Huntress would defend, but on the other hand, I wasn’t sure if the game ended immediately there or if the results of the attack are carried through.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Huntress wins Turn 1 Round 2 with either no wounds or 3 wounds (see notes).

TEST 10
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Huntress (170)
This was a close one, thanks to Shocker getting a lot of attacks on Huntress from height. Huntress, from range 2, put all four wounds on Shocker with her Crossbow on her last turn, for a great come from behind victory.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Huntress wins Turn 1 Round 2 with 3 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 170?
- Give a brief overview. The HYDRA Agents weren’t at full power without their bonding option, but Shocker dominated them. Had he not wounded himself twice, this wouldn’t look so close.
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. HYDRA Agents x2 (160)

Spoiler Alert!

Shocker used only his normal attack in this match, so he was able to kill more agents at a time. He rolled really well, taking out an Agent with every attack. He rolled so well, in fact, that he put 2 wounds on himself with Recoil.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker with 3 wounds wins Turn 3 Round 2.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150?
- Give a brief overview. Shocker didn’t roll as well here and didn’t quite get the job done.
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker vs. Hand Ninja x2 (170)

Spoiler Alert!

Shocker’s attack rolls balanced out this game, and he missed a few chances to put down at least two more Hand Ninja. No wounds for Recoil this game.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Hand Ninja with 4 left win Turn 3 Round 2.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 170-180
- Give a brief overview. Shocker tore up the other side, who just didn’t have any luck getting through Kingpin’s defense reliably.
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker (160), Kingpin (220), Doctor Octopus (215) (595) vs. Spider-man (250), Luke Cage (190), Jewel (150) (590)

Spoiler Alert!

Kingpin sent Shocker forward to do most of the damage here and soaked up a lot of the attacks from enemies. Shocker too advantage of his double attack from height and nearby Evergreen Trees (which he twice destroyed to put multiple wounds on heroes) to 4 wounds on Luke Cage, 4 wounds on Spidey, and all 5 wounds on Jewel. Luke Cage going down early gave the villains the advantage in Order Marker management and number of attacks. Shocker also put one wound on Kingpin (he was adjacent to an Evergreen Tree when it was destroyed) and himself (Recoil). The heroes didn’t roll well for their attacks.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Shocker with 1 Life, Kingpin with 1 life, and Doc Ock with full life (never attacked) win Turn 2 of Round 4.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. Shocker fell to big attacks from Daredevil here, but got in a few good shots first.
Map: Custom
Units: Shocker (170), Sandman (210), Kingpin (220), Doctor Octopus (215), Electro (135), Body Guard x3 (45) (995) vs. Spider-man (250), Luke Cage (190), Speedball (150), Daredevil (180), Blade (230) (1,000)

Spoiler Alert!

Shocker put 2 wounds on Daredevil before falling Round 3 to Daredevil. This time the heroes led with Daredevil and Blade to soften up Kingpin and his buddies. Kingpin fell in Round 5 to Spidey. By Round 7 it was just Electro and the Body Guards left and they all failed to do any wounds.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Speedball with 1 wound, Luke Cage with 3 wounds, and Spider-man with Full Life win Turn 2, Round 9.

I think Shocker is real close between 160 and 170 right now, but with all of his criminal synergies, I’d lean towards 170 to be safe (though I think a lot of his performance was enhanced by DOs being all over this map, he is very well-rounded with few weaknesses or poor match ups).

[A3n]

linked to OP

[IAmBatman]

Cool. Thanks. More after work today, hopefully.

[IAmBatman]

A3n, I think there's an issue with the Vibroshock Gauntlets power:

VIBROSHOCK GAUNTLETS
When Shocker attacks using his normal attack, he may attack one additional time. After each normal attack, you may move the defending figure X spaces in a straight line from Shocker, where X is equal to the number of skulls you rolled in your attack. Figures moved by this special power cannot be placed closer to Shocker than its original placement and will not take leaving engagement attacks but will take any falling damage.

I think it needs to be a "place" power, not a "move" power, both because moving another figure, thematically, is something we've reserved for mind control, but also because moving instead of placing brings up all sorts of mechanical questions related to a unit's movement powers (flying, etc.) and terrain issues (elevation, water, etc.).
I think this power needs to take a page out of Iron Man's book and model itself after one of the many "place" powers on those Iron Man cards.
Let me know what you think! I'm pretty much going to playtest it as if it is a "place" power for the time being, but look forward to some updated wording.