The Book of X-23

[IAmBatman]

Maybe ...

TRIGGER SCENT
Before taking a turn X-23, you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5, instead of moving and attacking normally, X-23 must attack each adjacent figure with her normal attack.

[A3n]

Why? I did mean it as additional to her turn, because sometimes it is a detriment (which is also why I made it the low roles).

[IAmBatman]

I don't understand how that would work, then. Are we redesigning the turn phases to create an attack phase that goes before moving?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I don't understand how that would work, then. Are we redesigning the turn phases to create an attack phase that goes before moving?

I suppose you can say that yes.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by A3n

I suppose you can say that yes.

I'm not sure that's entirely (or really even somewhat) clear on the card right now. If we're doing something that innovative, and turn order breaking, I think it needs to be spelled out much more clearly, and we have to consider possible ramifications concerning things that trigger during attack phases, movement phases, etc.

Btw, this type of thing is why we've been trending towards auto wounds in these situations.

That said, I think my suggested wording above, though it'd differ a tad from your original intent, is totally workable as well.

[A3n]

I can't foresee any ramifications this would cause & can't see that you would really require any change to wording. The power states this takes place before taking a turn, & it says to attack. Attack is a standard single action within HS that has a clearly defined process, I don't think we need to spell it out for anybody.

I dislike auto-wounds because it has no consideration for the power level of the characters. It is a mechanic that the original designers of the game used sparingly, but it seems to be our "goto" option for mechanics.

I agree your wording would work & am fine to go with that if we need to. I personally don't see that it's needed.

[IAmBatman]

Here's the problem. Right now you're saying that you roll the D20 before taking a turn, and if you hit a certain roll, you need to attack certain figures with her normal attack.

A normal attack takes place only during the attack phase unless it's specifically pointed out that it takes place at a different time (which I'm pretty sure this would be the first power to do so, so extra burden on the text there since it's setting a precedent). Right now it doesn't clarify in the text when the normal attacks take place, nor does it say anything specifically about breaking normal turn order, so in the vacuum of clarification here, as a player I'd assume I just do it during the attack phase of that turn. Though I'd also be a little unsure and confused.

How about something like this?

TRIGGER SCENT
Before taking a turn X-23, you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5, instead of moving and attacking normally, X-23 must attack each adjacent figure with her normal attack. After these attacks, you may take one additional turn with X-23. Do not roll for Trigger Scent during this additional turn.

[Hahma]

Seems clear.

So she rolls 6+ and takes a turn normally. Rolls 1-5, must attack any figure adjacent to her and then takes one additional turn where she can move and attack or whatever.

So she will have to attack any DO that she's adjacent to since they are figures.

Are there any powers that say,"after taking a turn with 'X' this happens", where her first turn/attack only would be considered as taking a turn and interrupt taking her additional turn?

[IAmBatman]

Not sure on that one, but setting it up this way would be no different really than what you have with Frenzy or any one else who can take multiple turns.

[Hahma]

Yep, you are right.

[A3n]

Ok what about if we make it more of a frenzy type thing & it replaced the move & attack:

SCENT TRIGGERED FRENZY
Before taking a turn X-23, one at a time do the following for each figure adjacent to X-23. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-5, X-23 must attack that figure with her normal attack. If X-23 inflicts 1 or more wounds when using this power, she must continue attacking that figure until she does not inflict a wound or the figure is destroyed.
If X-23 rolled 1-5 against any figure with this power she cannot move or attack normally this turn.

[IAmBatman]

I like that direction! Here's a shot at tweaking the wording a tad:

SCENT TRIGGERED FRENZY
Before taking a turn X-23, you must roll the 20-sided die, one at a time, for each figure adjacent to X-23. If you roll 1-5, instead of moving or attacking normally this turn, X-23 must attack the affected figure. If X-23 inflicts 1 or more wounds during this attack, she must continue attacking the defending figure until she does not inflict any wounds or the defending figure is destroyed.

The one wonky thing about this is that you can potentially see this happen in your turn phase:

1) OM revealed on X-23
2) X-23 is adjacent to five figures, and rolls the D20 for the first and hits a 1.
3) X-23 attacks that figure and inflicts a wound.
4) X-23 attacks that figure again and inflicts a wound.
5) X-23 attacks that figure again, but doesn't inflict a wound.
6) X-23 rolls for the next adjacent figure.

Etc. It can make for some very involved turns. But I'm OK with it, since the rolls are low enough to keep it from getting too crazy.