Nobody's Public Wheelhouse

[Tornado]

Nope.
jk. Fun design.

[MrNobody]

The mechanic feels fine on the Cybermen, but tbf they’re a lot less mobile in who they can nab. Similarly, lots of figures can just straight-up kill a unit with 2 life remaining with that high of a D20 roll (T-Rex Beast Boy and Dalek Drones are cheap examples), but again have less mobility to do so. I could see dropping it.

What would make it good in space? I could see some sort of death ray that makes it super-easy to inflict a single wound on lots of figures, opening them up for Exposure Damage.

[Lord Pyre]

Hah, that's awesome. I worry a tad about allowing commons to drive them, since Civilians are REALLY cheap.

Probing table is definitely a bit tough. They're kinda like discount Angstrom Levys in a way, and he's a bit of a pain to deal with. I wouldn't mind just releasing all captured figures at the end of the round or something like that.

[IAmBatman]

I just think like abducting Professor X and carrying him up is already damaging enough to his team. The Probe would just make it unfun to play out. The abduction should be able to do plenty of fun disruption but also let the Heroes fight their way out of the UFO, even when injured, which is cool. The Probe mostly seems like it either won't trigger often or when it does trigger it'll suck for the other player in an unfun way.

But blasting Death Rays on your turn that can hit multiple targets or maybe get a bonus against DOs (so other ships)? Tasty.

Could also play around with a Tractor Beam if you wanted? Something we'd want to eventually tackle for an Enterprise in Epic format (working title).

[Tornado]

Tractor Beam would be fun. Could make the Probe once per game for all UFOs.

[MrNobody]

NAME = SINISTER CLONE
SECRET IDENTITY = NATHANIEL ESSEX (CROSSOVER SYMBOL)

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = GENIUS
PERSONALITY = CRAFTY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 2
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 2

POINTS = 110

MANIPULABLE GENETICS 9
If any player rolls the 20-sided die to place a DNA Marker on this Sinister Clone’s Army Card, you may add 9 to the roll.

X-GENE ENHANCEMENT
All Nathaniel Essexes you control have the species of Mutant in addition to what is listed on their Army Cards.

BAR SINISTER
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Mister Sinister you control and taking a turn with that figure, you may take a turn with up to 6 Sinister Clones. You may not take any additional turns.

SUPER STRENGTH

That Marvel Snap game has a fun Sinister card and it got me thinking about a clone Sinister card to make him a bit more viable outside of crazy gimmick builds.

That last power probably needs to be toned down a whole lot, but in the nature of our Mister Sinister card, I kinda just went bonkers to start with. Taking a turn with 7 Unique Heroes in a turn is probably broken solely for Grundy/Thanos reasons, and Gundams obviously don't help a ton either.

[Tornado]

Very cool. Yeah probably broken but I am sure we can figure it out.
Are those Jean Grey clones?

[IAmBatman]

Probably undercosted, but love the bones here!

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Are those Jean Grey clones?

I think they’re Madelyn Pryor clones, which is practically a tautology.

After thinking about it, maybe something like this could be cool?

BAR SINISTER
After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Nathaniel Essex you control, you may take a turn with up to 2 Nathaniel Essexes within clear sight of him. You may not take any additional turns.

Makes them a little more decentralized too, which is fun theme. Could always tweak that 2 into whatever number feels balanced.

[Ronin]

I dig the idea, Sinister is a fun card and it'd be cool to have more reason to draft him. I'd do more normal Move/Range numbers and go like 5/1, put Clone in the leftbox.

I think right now they're missing something that makes them fun to get bigger stats on. The appeal of Sinister is that you can take someone with low stats/good powers and turn them into a world-beater.

I guess you can grind out the lower numbers with these guys faster and then get to the big numbers on someone cool, so that's still something. Might want a second kind of clone (maybe the Maddie Pryor clones) that can be the 'juiced with high stats' card so he can have a good 'in-faction' target that feels like more of a pay-off to the big number drop.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Honestly if you wanted 6 figures taking turns without Gundam problems you'd probably be able to cover that angle with just like "No figures other than Sinister Clones may attack during those turns" or something. Unless we get a ton with instead of / after moving powers.

But like honestly there's probably like 5 other ways to break that anyways.

I do agree with Ronin that like... putting markers on these dudes feels a bit underwhelming right now?

I wonder if there'd be a not too hacky way to do something were like you put a marker on one and it counts as being on all of them or something... that would be cool.