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Old June 17th, 2020, 06:52 PM
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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If there are no revealed order markers on this card, add 3 to the Defense value of this card.

Headlong Charge
An Alabaster Sentinel can add 4 to its Move if it only moves in a straight line this turn.
I think this is a strong draft. Regardless of whether their base defense is 3 or 4, I do wonder whether the +3 bonus from Flesh to Stone is too great to ever pass up and would make OM placement decisions less difficult than if it only gave a +2 bonus. However, I'd be happy to take the +3 bonus version into testing, and then consider lowering it to +2 if it seems like its never a good idea to put anything but OM #3 on them.

I'm also a little hesitant to give them 4 attack? Four attack melee squads occupy kind of an elite tier of units currently, and I'm not sure these guys necessarily warrant the same offensive potential as the Northern Wind or Varkaanan Darkclaws. However, this isn't a major issue for me and I won't oppose the direction if that's what the group prefers.

Personally I like the alliteration and theme conveyed by the name "Stoneskin Sentinels" best, but I also think that "Alabaster Sentinels" works well too. I don't care as much for "Whitehall Sentinels."

Lastly, I'm guessing we're all okay then with giving them Concan synergy by making them sentinels? It's something that kind of snuck in there when I first made them sentinels in my draft above, but I don't think we ever explicitly talked about it.
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

Since charging is an aggressive move, what about adding a slight attack boost incase they do end up adjacent to someone after a straight line charge?

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Typing that out, I realized something weird. Why would they have a ton of defense only when you have OMs on them, but when they are sleeping they only get barebones defense?
Now that its pointed out, yeah that does seem weird.

That makes me wonder, are we wanting the rhinos to be living beings that can turn to stone for defense, or are they actual statues walking around? If they are always statues, then why would their defense be temporary? Stone is still strong even if it happens to be moving. Augamo is also essentially a stone statue that moves and it has an always active defense.
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

Excellent point Zetsubo.

Then would this work?

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Headlong Charge: +3/4 move if they move in a straight line

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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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Excellent point Zetsubo.

Then would this work?

Rhox
-blah blah blah

3 troops 4 move 1 range 3 attack 5 defense

Headlong Charge: +3/4 move if they move in a straight line
I think that would work, even if it is a little less interesting than some other powers that have been suggested. I think deciding on what theme we want to represent (either the living beings that turn to stone, or actual walking statues) is important to move forward. My slight preference would be that they are living rhinos that can magically turn to stone in order to boost their defense. That way we can still thematically keep the second power:

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If there are no revealed order markers on this card, add 3 to the Defense value of this card.
However, I wouldn't oppose the other thematic direction that they are always statues if that's what enough others wanted.

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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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Flesh to Stone
If there are no revealed order markers on this card, add 3 to the Defense value of this card.
However, I wouldn't oppose the other thematic direction that they are always statues if that's what enough others wanted.
I also like this a lot. I think you can still justify it by saying the stone hardens or softens based on if they move or not. This version is nice and simple.
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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Excellent point Zetsubo.

Then would this work?

Rhox
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3 troops 4 move 1 range 3 attack 5 defense

Headlong Charge: +3/4 move if they move in a straight line
I like this, except I'd like to see a 3 movement instead of 4. Not a huge deal, but if everyone wants em to be statues living stone is pretty slow. (Granite Guardians are waving at ya! lol) :P

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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

The Granites effectively have 4 move because of their power. It'll be much harder for the Rhox to activate their power, so I think 4 to compensate is probably fine.
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

I also very much like the Flesh to Stone power in post 28

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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

Just to make my vision for this clear, I feel like these guys should be Jandar and Animata. I think we should go ahead with the power in post 28 (I’d quote it but I’m phone posting). I think an attack aura would be interesting but we should probably ease up on synergy right th t now and just make a beat stick melee unique squad. For that purpose I like the various Charge powers. Can someone whip one up based on previous versions?
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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Just to make my vision for this clear, I feel like these guys should be Jandar and Animata. I think we should go ahead with the power in post 28 (I’d quote it but I’m phone posting). I think an attack aura would be interesting but we should probably ease up on synergy right th t now and just make a beat stick melee unique squad. For that purpose I like the various Charge powers. Can someone whip one up based on previous versions?
As far as powers go, this is the direction I would prefer as well. That would give us something looking like:

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Stoneskin Sentinels
1 Life / ?4? Move / 3 Attack / 3 Defense

Flesh to Stone
If there are no revealed order markers on this card, add 3 to the Defense value of this card.

Headlong Charge
A Stoneskin Sentinel can add ?4? to its Move if it only moves in a straight line this turn.
Given the way the defensive power works, I would slightly prefer the left-side box and bio to suggest a race of rhino-like creatures who can magically turn to stone at will, rather than animated statues. If they're always statues, it doesn't make as much sense to me why they'd be harder to kill just because they're standing still. However, this isn't a point that I feel overly strongly about and could probably be persuaded either way.
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Re: [Pod 2] Rhox Veterans - Design

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Just to make my vision for this clear, I feel like these guys should be Jandar and Animata. I think we should go ahead with the power in post 28 (I’d quote it but I’m phone posting). I think an attack aura would be interesting but we should probably ease up on synergy right th t now and just make a beat stick melee unique squad. For that purpose I like the various Charge powers. Can someone whip one up based on previous versions?
As far as powers go, this is the direction I would prefer as well. That would give us something looking like:

Quote:
Stoneskin Sentinels
1 Life / ?4? Move / 3 Attack / 3 Defense

Flesh to Stone
If there are no revealed order markers on this card, add 3 to the Defense value of this card.

Headlong Charge
A Stoneskin Sentinel can add ?4? to its Move if it only moves in a straight line this turn.
Given the way the defensive power works, I would slightly prefer the left-side box and bio to suggest a race of rhino-like creatures who can magically turn to stone at will, rather than animated statues. If they're always statues, it doesn't make as much sense to me why they'd be harder to kill just because they're standing still. However, this isn't a point that I feel overly strongly about and could probably be persuaded either way.
I like the simplicity of the two powers

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