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Old March 24th, 2023, 11:12 PM
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Sandman (William Baker)

Sandman (William Baker)



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NAME = SANDMAN
IDENTITY = WILLIAM BAKER

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = MUTATE
CLASS = CRIMINAL
PERSONALITY = REPENTANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 2
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 200


SANDSTORM SPECIAL MOVE
Move 4.
Sandman cannot start his Sandstorm movement on water. Sandman gains Flying and Stealth, and this move is unstoppable. After Sandman moves, he may either heal 1 wound or roll 1 damage die against each figure he passed over. For the rest of this turn, he has -3 Attack.

SAND CONSTRUCTION
Sandman has -2 Attack and Defense while on aquatic terrain and +1 Attack and Defense while on sand.

DENSE SAND FORM
If Sandman has not used Sandstorm Special Move this round and he would be moved, you may stop his movement.

FACTION = SINISTER SIX
PUBLISHER = Marvel
KEYWORDS =
SYMBOLS = SUPER STRENGTH
REINFORCEMENTS ARRIVE: After being exposed to a radioactive test site while on the run from the police, William Baker became the sinister Sandman! He continued his life of crime at first, striking up a rivalry with Spider-Man, but has found himself often on the side of the angels in more modern times.

Resources and Rulings
  • The suggested figure for this unit is a Heroclix figure: Web of Spider-Man #055 / Sandman
  • See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!
Credits
  • Legacy design: tcglkn
  • Playtest: Ronin
  • Card art: japes
  • Comic creators: Steve Ditko & Stan Lee
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Old March 24th, 2023, 11:16 PM
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

Some tweaks in Sandstorm - the rest should be pretty familiar from 1.0.
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Old March 24th, 2023, 11:24 PM
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

Pre-yea for Art. Wording looks good to me.

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Old March 24th, 2023, 11:31 PM
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

I know we talked about it a bit initially, but I think having healing factor hurt his playability in the S6. The change here definitely powers him down, but I think it still fundamentally leaves him as a shark in a team that doesn’t like sharks.
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Old March 25th, 2023, 12:09 AM
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

"Sandman cannot use this ability on water."

Is that like he cant start the ability if he's currently on a water space or cant move onto water spaces with the ability?


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Old March 25th, 2023, 12:22 AM
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

So much slimmer looking! With the healing no longer being every round, do you think a 10 point drop is enough? Guessing 200 works well for army building though, so maybe 1 more life to start with?
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Old March 25th, 2023, 12:30 AM
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"Sandman cannot use this ability on water."

Is that like he cant start the ability if he's currently on a water space or cant move onto water spaces with the ability?
Yeah, that's a good question. I did wonder that. I would assume from a literal reading that he can't use the ability if he starts on water or use it to move over or onto water.

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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

That is a nice balance, you don't wanna be down to the last third of your team with a full life Sandman still on the board.
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So streamlined!
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

I feel like I never even saw that healing was part of the original card, I wonder if I played it that way or not
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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

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"Sandman cannot use this ability on water."

Is that like he cant start the ability if he's currently on a water space or cant move onto water spaces with the ability?
Yeah, that's a good question. I did wonder that. I would assume from a literal reading that he can't use the ability if he starts on water or use it to move over or onto water.
I feel like if we're going to use 'use' it needs to have a definition somewheres , since like that's an issue in 1.0 IMO where what the heck use covers is super vague and confusing. Especially when you get into other powers on other cards saying that you can't use things and such.

IDK, personally I'd just avoid it all together and say like "Sandman cannot start this ability on water" and/or "Sandman cannot pass over water with this ability" depending on what it's supposed to mean. And "After Sandman moves with this ability, blah blah blah" since like I think defining 'use the ability' as only the moving part but not the rest of it is a bit weird in the current set up.


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Re: Sandman (William Baker)

Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I’m in favor of clarifying that language if we can. I was just taking my best stab at interpreting the text.

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