C3G Unit Discussion - SSE S1 ; Part 2

[reverie]

WAVE EIGHTEEN: CULTURE CLASH
BOOSTER TWO: CITY OF TOMORROW



Krypto



Manchester Black



Livewire (Leslie Willis)



Brainiac 13



Kryptonite Man (K. Russell Abernathy)

[IAmBatman]

I wish Krypto got full turn bonding. As it is, he's just a meat shield for Superman. Which has value, I'm probably just not using any of his offense unless Superman is already dead. 3/B

Manchester Black has a nasty (if a bit awkwardly written) power set that benefits from boosters and d20 manipulators. Given enough help, he can be pretty effective. 2/B-

Livewire wants you to wait with her in your start zone for a few rounds and then get in one or two big hits. Not the most effective plan in most match ups. Antagonist class is easy to work with, but her cost is a bit high compared to other factional options. 2/C+

Brainiac 13 is OK. Surround him with cheap minions that he can jump into and he has some staying power. He doesn't have a ton of offense, though, especially at his price. 3/B-

Kryptonite Man is the Leech for Kryptonians. Hard to translate the character as anything else, but he's either no fun or worthless, depending on the match up. 1/F

[Shiftrex]

Definitely looks like Kryptonite man could use some adjustments to shake him up a bit. Maybe a 2.0 could be considered where he uses the blasts of radiation to be a ranged character that just happened to get a good matchup against Kyrptonians instead of having that be his whole identity.

I'll do some thinking on that for the future.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Honestly Kryptonite Man doesnt really seem an interesting enough character for me to care about trying to get him into C3G as a usable piece.

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WAVE EIGHTEEN: CULTURE CLASH
BOOSTER THREE: WEIRD SCIENCE



Scientist Supreme (Monica Rappaccini)



Diablo (Esteban De Ablo)



Deathlok (Michael Collins)



Harpoon (Kodiak Noatak)

[IAmBatman]

Scientist Supreme has some fun ideas, but she basically becomes a way to hand off a Cosmic Cube to someone who can actually use it, so a bit flat in practice. I wish she had actual turn bonding rather than just turn replacement. A bit fiddly and tough to use. 2/C+

If you can passively move up Diablo and pair him with d20 manipulators, he has a pretty nasty/unfun shutdown power. 3/B+

Deathlok has a lot of match up specific stuff with him, which makes his value really variable. That said, nothing in his leftbox or ability set really makes me want to draft him. His 255 pricetag is a bit high for what he offers and an awkward point value too. His one redemption is his decent stats. 2/C-

Harpoon is a solid low cost add-in to Mutants. There are probably better options out there, but he's not a terrible one. 3/B+

[toyhandle]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Scientist Supreme has some fun ideas, but she basically becomes a way to hand off a Cosmic Cube to someone who can actually use it, so a bit flat in practice.

Unfortunately...
HIGH-TECH RESEARCH
If a glyph placed with High-Tech Research would be removed from this card by any means, remove that glyph from the game.

Not sure what the plans are for the Future Foundation, but there seems to be some way to blend the villainous side of it with the Intelligencia. Would give Diablo and other Geniuses two homes.

[MrNobody]

Creating the Genius class was definitely done to give us a little mad science nest egg for stuff like Intelligencia!

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WAVE NINETEEN: PATRIOT GAMES
BOOSTER ONE: SECRET AVENGERS



Commander Rogers (Steve Rogers)



Hawkeye (Clint Carton) (Skycycle)



Moon Knight (Marc Spector)



Sharon Carter

[MrNobody]

Commander Rogers is definitelt more reasonable after his re-eval. But he’s still a fun unit with a distinct role.

Hawkeye is one where I feel like I was told he was crazy good a lot, but I could never make him work. Our consistent shift to more factional stuff (and adding another leadership Hawkeye) seem to have tamped his metagame role down a bit too.

Moon Knight is the cheap auto-wounding king.

Sharon has always come off a little weak to me. She’s only 90 points, but her main thing is having to work really hard to get something that Kitty Pryde gets for free at 80 points. Double Attack can be okay when boosted by Cap though.

[Arch-vile]

Commander Rogers is really solid. Tough to kill, nice variety of attack options, and Master Tactician gives you good OM flex and enables some cheese combos for stuff that normally requires OMs to function like Ozymandias.

Skycycle Hawkeye was an old metagame staple, but I haven't seen him used recently. He's a solid generalist to pair with anyone though nothing game-breaking at this stage of C3G.

Moon Knight is great value for the cost. You can pretty much ignore his first two powers and just use Crescent Darts 100% of the time and Moon Knight will earn his keep. He's basically required in competitive Fighter builds.

Sharon Carter is fine, nothing extraordinary. Two ranged attacks of 3 in C3G is nothing special, and the Covert Operations marker isn't very useful, because it's likely that Sharon is not your opponent's target anyway (assuming you have stronger attackers on the board). She's a decent Agent for a cheap cost but in a one-to-one comparison I'll always take Dum Dum over her.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Hawkeye is one where I feel like I was told he was crazy good a lot, but I could never make him work. Our consistent shift to more factional stuff (and adding another leadership Hawkeye) seem to have tamped his metagame role down a bit too.

It's been a long time but I think he had like some specific turn stacking shenanigans and he was crazy good in a particular type of build?