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[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

It's a needless ornamentation. The best designs are the ones that have the essential pieces and nothing else. Don't do it, Leaf It. It's clumsy and it adds nothing; it only hurts.

Originally Posted by Kinseth

Scytale is probably right.

Alright. This works out anyway, since I've already been testing without it. Now I just need to get the price nailed down a bit more.

[Kinseth]

Why attack 2? Any thoughts on attack 3? Based on the miniatures, seems like it would be warranted.

[Dad_Scaper]

Attack 2 seems right. They’re mobile, there are 4 per squad, and they reduce defense.

[Kinseth]

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

Attack 2 seems right. They’re mobile, there are 4 per squad, and they reduce defense.

Doesnt feel right to me, they look and feel like a 3 attack squad. Spectres are a powerful attacking creatures, not some ankle biting goblins.

[Dad_Scaper]

I don’t know why you keep spelling it wrong and making pronouncements about how they are supposed to be. Remember these are not D&D spectres. They are specters, from Arctorus. Things that go bump in the night in a scary world but not an established one.

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by Kinseth

Doesnt feel right to me, they look and feel like a 3 attack squad. Spectres are a powerful attacking creatures, not some ankle biting goblins.

It is attack of 2 because of the lowered defense. When I look at a design I see a line where attack and defense become threatening, and that line in at 2 attack/defense. 2 Attack won't get through much, and 2 defense won't block much. However once either of them become 3 attack/Defense, they are able to defend/harm much more reliably, even against figures with higher stats like 4/4 or 5/5. So at 3 attack they would be able to hurt things reliably regardless of the lowered defense, and the lowered defense would just compound the threat further. If it was a 2, or 3 figure squad I might consider it, but 4 attacks of 2 (3 on height) is pretty potent. They have Phantom walk so taking height isn't too difficult. As we've all witnessed, it only takes 1 skull to take down even a 9 defense figure. I don't want a very expensive squad to come out of this design, and I feel that 3 attack would be the thing that would push them above that point. Maybe I'll do a few tests and see how they feel, but I'm not likely to officially change it.

[Heroscaper 101]

Does anyone have any comments on my recent custom.
Name = Myrmidon
General = Valkrill
Planet = Eberron
Species = Human
Uniquity = Uncommon
Type = Hero
Class = Myrmidon
Personality = Tormented
Size = Medium
Height = 5

Master Stats
Life = 4
Move = 5
Range = 1
Attack = 3
Defense = 4

Basic Stats
Move = 6
Range = 1
Attack = 5
Defense = 4

Points = 60
(Single Spaced)

Critical Strike Chance
When you roll attack dice for any Normal Attack, you may re-roll all attack dice that did not show skulls. Critical Strike Chance can be used only once for each attack roll.

Critical Damage
When rolling attack dice against any figure, all skulls rolled count for one additional hit.

Critical Hit 100%
When rolling attack dice, if Myrmidon rolls a skull on every die, the defending figure can not roll defense dice. Critical Hit 100% does not affect destructible objects.

Number of Figures = 1

• Targeting Point = Head
• Grey Area = Sword

The figure used for this unit is Zhentarim Champion from Auggies Various pathfinder D&D Set. The name and model number is Zhentarim Champion Lords of Madness #059.

[Ericth74]

60 pts seems super low

[Dysole]

I'm assuming the reroll is just for him. It might need to be a bit clearer. I'm a bit surprised the figure would be Valkrill and from Eberron while pulling a name from the Peloponessian area. The powers also feels like it should be one power and it's not really exciting me and just feels like "when all you have is a hammer..." It is also going to be a lot of damage when it hits. Not sure I like that even on a slow non bonding hero.

~Dysole, very much in favor of the 2 attack for the specters (and also found it interesting that spectre sent her to specter when she googled definitions)

[Heroscaper 101]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

60 pts seems super low

The custom Myrmidon is a Uncommon Hero, so what should his point value be.

[Ericth74]

85 to 90, maybe more. Those powers could really hit for big damage. Seems overpowered at 60. 4 or 5 of those guys in a 500 pt army could really mop up. I'd say playtest and find out.

[Dysole]

Didn't calculate more precisely (or some kind of expected wounds) but one of those dudes is throwing six unblockable wounds 42% of the time. So you know most heroes get one shotted since there's no size restriction.

~Dysole, trying to think of a similar offensive firepower elsewhere