Leaf_It's Maps, and Scenarios

[Leaf_It]

Leaf_It's
Maps & Scenarios

All feed back is welcome

Standard Tournament Maps

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- ARV Approved Maps:

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A Couple Puddles
1xRotV, 1xRttFF, 1x Marvel


Rocky Mounds
1xRotV, 2xRttFF



Ruined City: The upper platforms of the warehouse ruins should be removed.
2xMarvel, 1xFotA

- Maps that I think are pretty decent:

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Obsidian Wastes
1xRotV, 1xVW


A Walk in the Grassy Ruins
1xRotV


Crumbling Dungeon
1xBftU, 1xFotA


Frosty Lake 1.1
1xBftU, 1xRttFF, 1xTT





Tree Sap Road
1x SotM, 2x RttFF

- Maps that are flawed, but still fun:

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Lost Road Marsh
1xSotM, 1xRttFF, 1xTJ




Shores of Thaelenk
1xRotV, 1xBftU, 1xTT


Edge of the Jungle
1xRotV, 1xSotM, 1xTJ


Flooded Temple II (Double revision): Original map by 1Mmirg.
1xRotV, 1xRttFF, 1xFotA


Cave Near Marshland Cove
1xBftU, 1xTJ


Charred Dungeon
1xBftU, 1xVW



Frozen Throne
1xBftU, 1xTT


Crossroad at Dark
1xBftU, 1xRttFF


Crevice Road
1xBftU, 1xRttFF

Very Slippery Ice Maps

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Coming Soon™

Single Master Set Maps

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Free For All Maps

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Scenarios

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[CJofCourse]

Originally Posted by Leaf_It

I have several maps and scenarios planned, and when I get around to finishing them, I'll post them here.

My first map, that I have tested enough to post here:

Ice Rock Dungeon

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link to PDF

This map was designed with a new ice mechanic in mind. It is recommended to use it when playing this map, but the map should play just fine without it.

Very Slippery Ice:

When moving on Ice tiles, count movement normally, but for each space, if it is possible to do so, you are forced to move one additional same level space in the same direction you just moved, however this addition move is free. If you can't move one additional space, you do not get to keep the free move. The free move cannot be use to go up terrain levels, but it can be used to go down terrain levels. Flying figures are not forced to take the free move if they are flying, except on the space they end their movement on. Ice is now more effective than roads.

All feedback is appreciated.

Cool map! Can't wait to see more from you. If there's going to be one issue this thread has, it would be the set requirements not being in the thread or pdf. I also like your idea of of custom Ice rules, it's interesting and opens up even more map possibilities, can't wait to see more!

[caps]

Not sure if tournament players are your intended audience, but I have to ask--how does the elevated snow right next to the start zone work out for Raelin and the like?

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by CJtheMighty

Cool map! Can't wait to see more from you. If there's going to be one issue this thread has, it would be the set requirements not being in the thread or pdf. I also like your idea of of custom Ice rules, it's interesting and opens up even more map possibilities, can't wait to see more!

Set Requirements added. Thank you.

I always felt that calling it slippery ice didn't make sense, since it's stopping you from moving, when slippery ice in real life usually makes you move farther than you intend. I've playtested this map with the new ice mechanic, and it plays pretty well. You have to plan out landing on the glyphs though, or you'll miss them.

Originally Posted by capsocrates

Not sure if tournament players are your intended audience, but I have to ask--how does the elevated snow right next to the start zone work out for Raelin and the like?

I have never used a Raelin army myself. Or rather, I've not used one since I was very young, and only had a master set and a few small expansion waves. The short answer is, I have no idea how it works out for Raelin, but with the size of the map, and the other high ground so close, I don't think it will be a huge problem. I could be wrong though.

[Sir Heroscape]

Initial Thoughts:
Cap is right. The elevation that close to the start zone is a concern...with the exception that a big iceblock will block most LOS targets straight ahead.

My main concern is the up and down, choppy elevation through the middle of the map. Any melee armies: knights, legionaires, sacred band etc will have a very difficult time developing across the map. It'll be slow and tedious for them, allowing ranged armies - even with the limited elevation - to still have the advantage b/c of the choppiness of the snow tiles through the middle.

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by Sir Heroscape

Initial Thoughts:
Cap is right. The elevation that close to the start zone is a concern...with the exception that a big iceblock will block most LOS targets straight ahead.

My main concern is the up and down, choppy elevation through the middle of the map. Any melee armies: knights, legionaires, sacred band etc will have a very difficult time developing across the map. It'll be slow and tedious for them, allowing ranged armies - even with the limited elevation - to still have the advantage b/c of the choppiness of the snow tiles through the middle.

In my own play tests, this was not as big of an issue as it might seem. Though I admit that I wanted to make the middle less choppy, but I ran out of terrain.

[caps]

When testing for lumpiness, also consider units like the Marrden Hounds, Nilfheim, and Grimnak.

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by capsocrates

When testing for lumpiness, also consider units like the Marrden Hounds, Nilfheim, and Grimnak.

I'll do a few more tests, and potentially change the map based on them.

[Leaf_It]

Sneak peak at something I've built.

[Leaf_It]

Incoming with a reworked Ice Rock Dungeon, and 2 new maps.

Ice Rock Dungeon 1.1

https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...o=file&id=4669
I tried to make things smoother, and more balanced.

A Couple Puddles 1.2

https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...o=file&id=4667
I made this for the Uncharted Wellsprings mapping contest.

There is a Wall Here

https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...o=file&id=4668
I wanted to make a map that didn't use a master set at all, but used all the small terrain expansions. I don't know if it's really worth playing, but it was kind of fun to make.

[rednax]

Hey [MENTION=46851]Leaf_It[/MENTION]!

I really like the look and feel of your maps. All of them are very pleasing aesthetically and I can tell you spent a lot of time deciding where line of sight blockers and pathing went. Here are my thoughts:

Ice Rock Dungeon
I think this map looks really neat and I love the abundant supply of line of sight blockers. The "Very Slippery Ice" rule is interesting, and I understand what you're going for, but I'm not sure if that completely makes sense either. Yes, slippery ice does cause you to go further than you intended, but often times you lack control to decide when you turn (thinking back to some old Pokemon games). So while this rule does propel you further, it allows you to do a lot of zigzagging, something that probably couldn't happen in real life. That's why I actually prefer the standard slippery ice rules. I've always interpreted it as "The ice is so slippery that you have to walk slower so you don't lose your balance."

This is just a nitpicky thing since you brought up realism in ice rules. Functionally, I think it's actually a really neat terrain effect.

A Couple Puddles
I also like how you used line of sight blockers on this map. The trees help from shooting across the gap, and the ruin helps a bit as you approach on your right side. Regarding glyph choice, I wonder if you might want to choose something a little more powerful in the middle. As it currently stands, I'm not sure if Dagmar is powerful enough to draw attention away from the two hills. Maybe Wannok or Valda could be placed there instead. Valda in particular could be useful in helping melee teams scale the hills.

There is a Wall Here
I love the novelty factor of this map. You make use of these disparate terrain expansions without having the map look too cacophonous. I realize that you don't recommend it for competitive play, but I wanted to offer one suggestion nonetheless. With the layout of the map, it seems like most of the action will be concentrated by the glyph, and I can imagine it getting very cramped. I'd be curious to see what you could do with the map if you shortened the wall a bit to open the action up.

But if you'd rather leave it as is, I get that too.

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by rednax

Hey @Leaf_It !

I really like the look and feel of your maps. All of them are very pleasing aesthetically and I can tell you spent a lot of time deciding where line of sight blockers and pathing went. Here are my thoughts:

Ice Rock Dungeon
I think this map looks really neat and I love the abundant supply of line of sight blockers. The "Very Slippery Ice" rule is interesting, and I understand what you're going for, but I'm not sure if that completely makes sense either. Yes, slippery ice does cause you to go further than you intended, but often times you lack control to decide when you turn (thinking back to some old Pokemon games). So while this rule does propel you further, it allows you to do a lot of zigzagging, something that probably couldn't happen in real life. That's why I actually prefer the standard slippery ice rules. I've always interpreted it as "The ice is so slippery that you have to walk slower so you don't lose your balance."

This is just a nitpicky thing since you brought up realism in ice rules. Functionally, I think it's actually a really neat terrain effect.

When speaking for my self, when there's large patches of ice, I don't usually try to go slower to stay steady, I try to launch myself to see how far I can slide, and sometime that makes me run into things, or go farther than I want. I see your point though, most people do try to go slow, and stay steady.

Originally Posted by rednax

A Couple Puddles
I also like how you used line of sight blockers on this map. The trees help from shooting across the gap, and the ruin helps a bit as you approach on your right side. Regarding glyph choice, I wonder if you might want to choose something a little more powerful in the middle. As it currently stands, I'm not sure if Dagmar is powerful enough to draw attention away from the two hills. Maybe Wannok or Valda could be placed there instead. Valda in particular could be useful in helping melee teams scale the hills.

It's funny that you mention Valda, because that was the Glyph I originally had in the middle. I was told that it was redundant with all the road there is, and that it would likely be ignored since the normal movement with road bonus is so good. I agree that Valda is great glyph to have when moving melee forces, and I value it highly in games that I play in. I'll see what the ARV says after they test the map.

Originally Posted by rednax

There is a Wall Here
I love the novelty factor of this map. You make use of these disparate terrain expansions without having the map look too cacophonous. I realize that you don't recommend it for competitive play, but I wanted to offer one suggestion nonetheless. With the layout of the map, it seems like most of the action will be concentrated by the glyph, and I can imagine it getting very cramped. I'd be curious to see what you could do with the map if you shortened the wall a bit to open the action up.

But if you'd rather leave it as is, I get that too.

As it currently is, a move 6 range 6 can already 1 turn attack the opponents start zone. I don't want to allow that any more that I already am.

Thank you for all the feedback @rednax I appreciate it.