The Book of Court of Owls

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Gamora is sort of the odd-woman out being a fair bit more expensive than the rest. I figure if it proves too powerful to get a basically guaranteed resurrection for her we can limit Electrum Investment to some mix of Human/Undead Assassins (depending on how we want the Talons to work).

[johnny139]

I personally liked the common squads that you can scale up, but I'm fine with a crazy big unique squad as well.

If it is unique, though, I think the first power could be significantly simplified. Doesn't need the scaling, just start with 6 markers. Maybe change the exact number needed to give a little wiggle room. Something like that. As-is there's two binary choices, so it feels a little strange to use markers in that way.

Otherwise, though, they look good.

[tcglkn]

I'm now free to run this initial if we get things updated and are happy to move forward here.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Originally Posted by johnny139

I personally liked the common squads that you can scale up, but I'm fine with a crazy big unique squad as well.

If it is unique, though, I think the first power could be significantly simplified. Doesn't need the scaling, just start with 6 markers. Maybe change the exact number needed to give a little wiggle room. Something like that. As-is there's two binary choices, so it feels a little strange to use markers in that way.

Otherwise, though, they look good.

Yeah the scaling is just left over from the original version.

It's not totally a binary choice with the markers right now, but yeah the resurrection option is all or nothing. I guess we could do like.. it takes four markers to revive someone? So they can still do some healing. Or maybe make it so they have to remove markers equal to the character's life value. That could be a good safety valve to stop them from bringing back like some weird Elseworlds Assassin Superman or something.

CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)
[spoiler]Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.
Verifed

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.
Verifed

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.
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Size and Height
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Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.
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New Powers - Names
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Reused Powers
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Power Level
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Don't seem to be any big issues, so I'm going to go ahead and propose going to Initial Playtesting


Here's what I'm thinking for an updated Electrum Investment power:

Start the game with 6 gold Electrum markers, you may choose any number of Assassin Unique Heroes in your army and distribute your Electrum markers among the chosen Heroes' Army Cards. At the start of each round, you may either:
• Choose any number of Heroes you control that each have one or more Electrum markers on their card and are not on a snow or ice space, and remove one Electrum marker from each of their cards. If you do, remove 1 wound marker from each of the chosen Heroes' Army Cards.
• Choose a destroyed Hero in your army and remove a number of Electrum markers from that Hero's card equal to its Life Value. If you do, remove all wound markers from that Hero's Army Card, then place that Hero on a space in your Start Zone.

[tcglkn]

Yea, like the change to markers equal to the life number for resurrecting them.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Yeah, I should have done something with that sooner, but i kinda forgot that was a tool in the C3G box.

Also gives an avenue for some soft synergy with the Talons if we drop them to 3 life, since you could resurrect two of them/ one twice. Which would help tie them together a bit more.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I dig something like 3 Life and Unstoppable Resilience on Talons (though I know you have a write up for them already).

Also yea and like where this landed.

[Tornado]

Yea

[Arch-vile]

yea

[Lord Pyre]

Yea

Question though, I love breaking new ground with big squads, but WHY is it a 6 man squad? Is there only 6 of them in the comics? (Never read them). Since they essentially are just an OM hub that stays in your start zone, and suck in combat, seems a bit weird to push them to have 6 when it doesn't really do anything. I'm not against it at all, just curious on the thought process.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

BEHIND GRANITE AND LIME
A Member of the Court of Owls cannot be attacked as long as they are in your Start Zone and you control at least one Assassin Hero.

Worth doing something so they can't deny enemy melee units by turtling up around the Assassin?

yea either way.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Lord Pyre

Yea

Question though, I love breaking new ground with big squads, but WHY is it a 6 man squad? Is there only 6 of them in the comics? (Never read them). Since they essentially are just an OM hub that stays in your start zone, and suck in combat, seems a bit weird to push them to have 6 when it doesn't really do anything. I'm not against it at all, just curious on the thought process.

Felt like a good number to represent a small committee/it was the number of markers he wanted to go with and the theme is one from each of them?