The Book of Black Adam

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by A3n

Can we get a confirmation on this.

Any modifiers that are added to a roll, are always done so before applying the "roll" number to a power. That hasn't been ruled anywhere, but it is just the way Heroscaper and all other games that I have played are figured. If Subakna gives me a +1 to my Marro D20 powers and then I roll a 15 for Stinger Drain, I "rolled" a 16.

I agree no change required .

Special powers according to the glossary are never specifically tied to just Army Cards, and Cyber Claw seems to suggest that they are special powers. However, Cyber Claw is an example that shows us that Glyphs are not clear on whether or no they are Special Powers, so it specifies, and I think we should also specify and in the same way:

COURAGE OF MEHEN
If an opponent chooses Black Adam for any special power on an Army Card or glyph, and rolls the 20-sided die, and they roll 18 or lower, the opponent's figure using the special power receives one wound.

I think I prefer it as:

If that works.

I think this is a bit closer/better:
WISDOM OF ZEHUTI
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may immediately choose any 2 Order Markers on Army Cards you control and switch them. Chosen Order Markers may be revealed Order Markers, unrevealed Order Markers, or any Order Marker on Army Cards of destroyed figures.

I agree no change here.

Cheers

Choose all the way.

[SirGalahad]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

How about ...

WISDOM OF ZEHUTI
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may switch any 2 other Order Markers on Army Cards you control, even revealed Order Markers and Order Markers on an Army Card of a destroyed figure.

The last line sounds too customy. "Any" means any. If people can't understand that, we can always FAQ it.

[IAmBatman]

Good changes and non changes, guys. Things all look to be going in the right direction here.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

The last line sounds too customy. "Any" means any. If people can't understand that, we can always FAQ it.

What did you think of this? Can you tweak it at all to make it better or is it crap?

WISDOM OF ZEHUTI
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may immediately choose any 2 Order Markers on Army Cards you control and switch them. Chosen Order Markers may be revealed Order Markers, unrevealed Order Markers, or any Order Marker on Army Cards of destroyed figures.

[A3n]

I am kind of thinking that we should just leave it at:

WISDOM OF ZEHUTI
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may switch any 2 other Order Markers on Army Cards you control.

It says everything we want it to do. If the person playing it can't interpret that as meaning revealed, unrevealed, on destroyed figures, figures off the battlefield or whatever else, then it's them that are missing out. It's a case of do as the card says not what it doesn't say.

Cheers

[Griffin]

I can go with that mentality, but is "other" really necessary? Are we really against the OM from this turn being switched too?

[A3n]

Originally Posted by Griffin

I can go with that mentality, but is "other" really necessary? Are we really against the OM from this turn being switched too?

I think some limitation is warranted, & it will avoid any issues that may arrise from taking a turn with someone that the OM wasn't revealed but is now on.

Cheers

[IAmBatman]

It's going to be a really busy week for me, but if you guys feel he's ready, I'd be happy to try to tackle Black Adam's initial playtest over the course of the week.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I think he is pretty good. I think it would be nice if we knew he played like we intend, but unfortunately the ERB didn't offer anything in that area.

[A3n]

I did already start, but it might take me some time....

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT BLACK ADAM

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass - Lack of lightning strike was disappointing, but now that's fixed it's great.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass - couldn't think of any

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass - He was just a heavy hitter before the lightning strike which was blah, but with the SA I think is good.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass - Some powers are niche but they all have a purpose within the game.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass - He adds to a strategic game.

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes he passes as a playable 1-v-1 unit.
- What should be the unit's point value? 340 - 380
- Give a brief summary. He played like a Heavy Hitter but points is difficult for me to judge based on the costs of the C3G range of units. Against Superman, Darkseid, Supergirl & Scarlet Witch he felt like 360-380. Against Ultron lucky if he made it to 300. Against Hal he felt about 320-340, but against Annihilus in the first match they felt about even but with the dice working for CCR in the second match he felt sub 340.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Superman (400)
Superman had all the defensive luck with MoS power & after opening the blood account with a 7 skull to 2 shield attack it was only a matter of time before he put the last 2 wounds on BA.
Superman R2T3 one wound.

TEST 2
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units:vs Darkseid (380)
BA was against height for the first attack on Darkseid & reduced in attack by Darkseid's Imposing Presence but still put 4 wounds on him. Darkseid used his Omega Effect twice in the match-up, each time causing 2 wounds but failing to destroy & therefore took a combined 2 wounds from Courage Of Mehen. BA just had the better consistent rolls to finally destroy Darkseid.
Black Adam R1T3 four wounds.

TEST 3
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: Darkseid (380)
Again BA was the aggressor & with 2 attacks had Darkseid at 4 wounds. Darkseid finally hit with the Omega Effect for 3 wounds & then rolled a 20 to destroy BA.
Darkseid R2T1 four wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Supergirl (320)
Supergirl tried keeping her distance & use Heat Vision but had no affect on BA who lured Supergirl close enough to move adjacent & smack her down to 6 wounds at the end of round one. Supergirl got one wound on BA before being smacked to oblivion with a 5 skull to 1 shield attack.
Black Adam R2T2 one wound.

TEST 5
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Ultron (680 - had to see what kind of effect CoM would have)
Ultron gained height & landed 2 wounds with his first turn using ERSA & elects to remove all OMs from BA. Next turn Ultron misses completely but the next he hits for 4 unanswered skulls but fails PT & takes a wound due to CoM. Next round BA heals 1 wound, Ultron completely whiffs, BA runs to lure Ultron from height but Ultron succeeds once again in removing BA's OMs & destroys BA next turn with PT.
Ultron R2T3 one wound.

TEST 6
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Scarlet Witch (285)
Although cursed BA didn't take a wound at all. BA's first attack was reduced to 1. SW took a leaving engagement wound & in the same turn took 2 wounds from her own attack due to the Power of Aton.
Black Adam R2T1 no wounds.

TEST 7
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units:vs Green Lantern - Hal (350)
Don't sneeze or you'll miss Hal slice & dice. Didn't need to use Green Power Shield.
Green Lantern - Hal R1T3 two wounds.

TEST 8
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Green Lantern - Hal (350)
This time it went slightly longer with Hal using Green Power Shield & BA managed to heal for 1. But end result wasn't much different. Fearless! is he really on worth 350?
Green Lantern - Hal R2T3 three wounds.

TEST 9
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Annihilus (360)
Each turn in the first round Annihilus received one wound using the CCR from CoM but receive one extra for when the rod mis-fired in the 3rd turn but redeemed himself when BA whiffed a 3 skull attack. Winning initiative for the second round allowed BA to finish the match in a 6 skull to 3 shield attack.
Black Adam R2T1 six wounds.

TEST 10
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: vs Annihilus (360)
This match was a completely different kettle of fish. This time Annihilus used CCR with deadly efficiency rolling 17+2, 19+2, & 10+2, he only received 1 wound from CoM & 2 normal wounds from BA.
Annihilus R1T3 three wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 300-380
- Give a brief summary. Although he was destroyed before getting there I feel he could have worked his way through them all had he not bothered leaving engagements.
Map: Ruins of Heroes Past
Units: vs 5th Precinct Beat Cops (x6)

Spoiler Alert!

It was a long monotonous battle that saw BA basically kill a cop each turn (except for 3 turns - 1 of which was the first turn required to move out). The battle was waged on the steps where BA tried to maintain height advantage & as such took a couple of leaving engagement wounds. BA lost the initiative rolls twice & as a result got to heal two wounds in the battle.
5th Precinct Beat Cops R6T1 five cops remained.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 250-300
- Give a brief summary. Why do I say such a low cost? Well he killed a bit less then 225 points worth of Thugs and it took a few more Thugs to set up the appropriate ambush. This match didn't seem as monotonous as the Cops & Black Adam never felt like he was going to win. The whole way through it felt like he was doing ok but the shear numbers would get him in the end which is exactly what happened.
Map: Ruins of Heroes Past
Units: Street Thugs (x5)

Spoiler Alert!

The writing was on the wall from the outset of this match. Sacrificing Thugs draw the BA to one section of the map whilst setting up an ambush that would give the Thugs +1 from Rule the Streets & then once BA engaged some the rest swung around to gain height advantage as well the Thugs were empowered to deliver the definitive blows to BA. BA healed once in round 3 only. BA had no other opportunities to use any powers.

Street Thugs R4T3 nine thugs remained.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 300-360
- Give a brief summary. Black Adam performed as a heavy hitter only as his powers didn't come into play (except for the un-required OM swap in round 5). Although he has a different kind of D20 affecting power, even Captain Marvel's D20 deterred me away from trying Arkillo's Eviscerate from him, so I am not worried about the powers having a place on the card, but concerned that they are just deterrents that mean he only performs as a heavy hitter. I don't know if this is good or bad?
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: Team1: Black Adam (360), Yellow Lantern - Sinestro, Yellow Lantern - Arkillo (1000 pts)
Team2: Captain Marvel, Green Lantern - Hal, Wonder Woman (1010 pts)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1. No wounds were dealt until turn 3 when Hal blasted Sinestro from distance issuing 3 wounds which was a great start to the good guys.

Round 2 Arkillo engages Hal & Captain Marvel & using Eviscerate puts 2 wounds on Hal & then 3 on CM (what a turn & good use of his Yellow Battery Marker). Wonder Woman backs up her team by lassoing Arkillo to engage her & Hal but she rolls 6 shields in her attack on him (defence definitely isn't the best offence). Black Adam engages WW & Hal to break WW's hold on Arkillo. BA then rolls 5 skulls against Hal which is just shielded away. Hal fails an attack against BA. Sinestro puts 1 wound on CM from a distance, & then deflects CM's return attack with his shield.

Round 3 & CM heals 1 wound. WW fails another attack against Arkillo. Arkillo Eviscerates Hal but his attack is fended off by WW. OM2 was on Hal - turn lost. Sinestro uses Force Of Fear to wound CM for 1 & then again for 2. CM wounds Sinestro for 1. Arkillo puts 2 on WW.

Round 4 (the downfall). CM heals 1 wound then attacks Sinestro with 4 skulls, Sinestro Power Shields it away. BA's weak attack is laughed off by WW. CM rolls 2 skulls against Sinestro who doesn't risk it & throws up his Yellow Power Shield again. Sinestro's turn & CM reads the winds & moves the 3 from WW to his card. Sinestro uses Force of Fear to put 1 wound on CM. The gamble pays off for CM who destroys Sinestro. BA stops playing around now & hits WW for 5 to destroy her. (WW rolled 6 skulls - offence as defence doesn't work for her either).

Round 5 BA finishes CM in the second round but not before CM managed to place 4 wounds on him. BA used WoZ to swap revealed OM 1 on his card with OM 3 on Arkillo's card.

R5T2 Black Adam (4 wds), Arkillo (0 wds)

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Indeterminable
- What should be the unit's point value? Indeterminable
- Give a brief summary. BA got his but handed to him by Black Canary & the dice gods.
Map: Echoes of Heroes Past
Units: Team1: Black Adam (370), Super Skrull, Solomon Grundy (1000)
Team2: Supergirl, Black Canary, Gambit, Green Arrow, Batman - Terry (990)

Spoiler Alert!

This match was all but over by the end of round 1...
Green Arrow & Solomon Grundy move out for field position. Supergirl comes half-way to Grundy intent to hold some high ground & fails with her heat vision against him. Black Adam engages Supergirl but his attack is brushed aside leaving him feeling impotent & unable to produce any spark. Black Canary engages Black Adam & must have taken him by surprise with her fists of fury landing first 3 wounds then another 4 wounds. And just like that Black Adam is put to rest. OMG! What an ending to a round & the first round at that.

Solomon Grundy not taking a chance decides to turn his attention to the little bird, putting 1 wound on her. Canary positions herself so she can use her Canary Cry against both Solomon & Skrull but only gets 1 skull which is easily ignored. Cupid's Arrow also fails to hit it's mark. Super Skrull with height puts 1 wound on Green Arrow. Batman gets the height of the pillar & using his range puts 2 wounds on Super Skrull. Solomon Grundy doesn't hold back this time against Black Canary & rolls 5 unanswered skulls. Lights out little birdie. Green Arrow leaves engagement with Super Skrull uninjured & then puts 1 wound on Solomon.

Grundy turns back to Supergirl but is fended off. Gambit feeling left out engages Super Skrull with a pole vault & puts 1 wound on him. Super Skrull returns in kind. Green Arrow puts the final 3 wounds on Super Skrull from height with a Skilled Shot. Team1's OM#3 was on Super Skrull so they missed a turn. Batman attempted an attack on Grundy from range but it was ignored.

Supergirl yawns & hits Grundy for 2 wounds. This enrages Grundy who lashes back with 7 skulls to Supergirls 2 blanks. Not amused, Supergirl announces that it is Saturday & doesn't waste another day to put the final wounds on Grundy & finish the match.

R4T2 Supergirl (5 wds), Gambit (1 wds), Green Arrow (1 wds), Batman - Terry (0 wds)

[A3n]

Gotta go, will put the rest of the HH tests up later.

[IAmBatman]

Ah, well, then I don't want to step on your toes. Have at him!