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Old January 25th, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

same as YK

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old January 25th, 2023, 10:33 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

We could rename swing line to be web swing, too, just for the theme. Since we’re not beholden to Hasbro anymore.
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Old January 25th, 2023, 10:35 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

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We could rename swing line to be web swing, too, just for the theme. Since we’re not beholden to Hasbro anymore.
Don't we have non Spiders that use the Swing Line name?

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old January 25th, 2023, 10:35 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

I'm pro 1 move of 6.

Merging Swing Line and Web Swing to 1 power called Web Swing would be great too, IMO, with various numbers for however far you want them to move, if there's no need for a difference.
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We could rename swing line to be web swing, too, just for the theme. Since we’re not beholden to Hasbro anymore.
Don't we have non Spiders that use the Swing Line name?
Not that I recall, just bat grapples and such.
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Old January 25th, 2023, 11:09 PM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

Is there a name we can use for swing line types that are neither Spiders or Bats.

EDIT: My son just sat down as I was typing and answered the question. Grapple or Grapple line.

So I guess I have no issue with this being web swing.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old January 25th, 2023, 11:17 PM
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We don't have any non-spiders with swing line that I could find, but I was looking at an older index.

We do have a Street Light DO that I assume is calling it out as more "dude with a grappling line" deal than specifically for Spiders only. But like... there are already 10+ grapple powers it doesn't work with so I don't think that matters a ton.

There was talk of a Black Cat with Swing Line but like honestly I don't think putting her into the entire Spider-Verse web is the way to make a Black Cat that pairs with Spider-Man.


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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

I'll say in general I like the multiple smaller moves as feeling evocative of how Spidey moves. I would be just fine seeing the whole faction condense to that. I'd be cool seeing it changed to two moves of 3 instead of three moves of 2. I'm ultimately fine if folks feel it absolutely has to be one move of 6, though I feel it lost a little charm. If it stays multiple moves, I think there's a lot to be said about only letting him do one of those defensively. That seems like good design to me.

So I could see a lot of options. B probably isn't my favorite, but there are also folks way more invested in this faction than I am, so I'm not looking to be a pain. For the official poll I'll abstain

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Old January 26th, 2023, 09:42 AM
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

Personally I like the 3 moves of 2. You do have to move differently with it than if it was a straight single move of 6. 3 moves of 2 feels way more thematic to how Spider-Man actually moves in comics/movies.
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

Fwiw, the Street Light was a Tickle joint, and I’m pretty sure he wanted it to be a Spidey-exclusive thing. (Or at the very least, was actively disinterested in accomodating any non-Spidey swingers.)

In general, we’ve really been focusing on simplicity, and I just don’t want that simplicity to come at the cost of texture and thematics. To me, the 3 moves of 2 are some added flavor that sometimes affect gameplay, and to see Spidey basically just change to Stealth Flying special move isn’t the most exciting thing. But it seems like the kind of thing where people are just going to have differing opinions, and I’ve said my piece!
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Re: Spider-Man (Peter Parker) (Design)

I just mainly don’t like that he’s susceptible to lava or traps or other abilities since he’s hopping on the ground, which is very much thematically not how he moves. He’s always in the air or wall crawling to avoid be on the ground, and web swing does the opposite.

Like… it FEELS thematic sure. But mechanically it’s not at all.
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Old January 26th, 2023, 01:15 PM
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I just mainly don’t like that he’s susceptible to lava or traps or other abilities since he’s hopping on the ground, which is very much thematically not how he moves. He’s always in the air or wall crawling to avoid be on the ground, and web swing does the opposite.

Like… it FEELS thematic sure. But mechanically it’s not at all.
Yeah, I'm with you.

I don't even think it feels thematic. Genuine question: Since when does Spidey go an approximation of 10 ft. per swing, landing on the ground in between each? The Spidey I'm familiar with is one that sees him swinging a decent distance in one go, like a good 60 ft. at least, then shooting another web, not touching the ground in between.

3 moves of 2 feels like someone making quick short leaps Beast or Cheetah style. But I also, admittedly, have always just given Spidey the full amount without touching down every 2 spaces anyway.
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