C3G Unit Discussion - SSE S1 ; Part 2

[FreshFoods]

Archangel/Destiny/Magneto II/Cyclops II sounds like it might have something to it. X on Destiny, use Cyclops bonding to move Archangel and attack (Magnetic Assault) on Mags. 930 so you've got 70 points left over, not sure what the best filler here would be.

This is entirely theorycrafting since I've never used this guy though.

[Dysole]

I remember dok building a pod of Archangel/MM/Red Skull/Aaron Cash. It was nasty. Although this was pre reeval Skull and Cash. Probably is still really solid though.

~Dysole, chiming in

[Yodaking]

I've had quite a lot of success with Archangel. While 17+ on a d20 power isn't something I generally count on happening, he just gets so many cracks at it that it usually ends up firing a rather high number of times. Opponents that feature a ranged double attack can be a nice boon to his production, while armies that rely more on SA's, d20 powers, and unblockables to deal damage are his bane.

[FreshFoods]

Energizer- "Julie, how do you spell "Wolverine?" ”



Lightspeed- "Uh...listen Katie! remember how worried we were that you might disintegrate something accidentally? Well... you know that pink teddy bear you used to have...? ”



Mass Master- Holy cow! Now that we have powers we ought to have names--like the Hulk..and Spider-man!



Zero-G- "Energizer! Can you blow a hole out of the bulkhead?”

[tcglkn]

[Tornado]

Power Pack!
I really need to come up with a F4 build for them. Cheap pilots. Could be good in Gundams?

[IAmBatman]

I usually use them as fillers. If you want to use them as an army on their own, yeah, seem like really good Gundam pilot candidates, as the biggest qualm there is how easy it is to kill Zero-G and make their efficiency fall apart. Energizer probably has the most value in the meta with her being able to punch above her weight against VDOs.

They're nice pieces in Fantastic Four builds when you are going above 1000. Otherwise it's probably worth trying to run them as a foursome all in mechs.

Energizer 3 B+
Lightspeed 3 B
Mass Master 3 C+
Zero-G 2 B-

[FreshFoods]

Awesome Android



Impossible Man- "Name? We Poppupians have no names. We know who we are!”

[tcglkn]

Just 6 great designs in a row! So lucky.

[IAmBatman]

Awesome Android is a texbook case of powers being too hard to use consistently.

Gale Force Exhale is in the same mold as Superman (II) where the movement is cool, but having to give up your entire turn to do it is not. I'd rather roll a D20 and get turn efficiency. There are basically so many better ways in our library to get reliable figure movers.

Epidermal Mimicry is great in end game against Robin (Dick Grayson), I guess? For the most part it just means enemy figures with nasty defensive powers are going to try to stay at range, which might get him a few extra swipes. Adjacency in general is hard to maintain consistently and hurts your efficiency. His being Large makes him harder to carry along as well. Overall this one is really placement and match up dependent.

And then Weak-Minded is a negative power that you can use with mind control figures on your own side to turn into a slightly positive power.

The overall package just isn't something super efficient or appealing for competitive play given other options, though.

Awesome Android: 2 C-

Impossible Man has potential if you really build around him and get a good match up. He's terrible against single figure armies, since they can just keep moving away from him and using range and he's basically just getting hit for auto wounds and then relying on his stats. Although you might not even use range at all, since that just lets him pop, so in that situation you're probably better off just using a full 10 turns of auto wounds.

Against bigger armies, he has a chance to move into a crowd and get figures to stay adjacent with him. Even then, he's still going to take a lot of auto-wounds and have to rely on hitting 16+ rolls to be relevant most of the time.

I would say Ignored makes him too easy to counter and the rest of his package isn't reliable enough for a 430 point figure.

Impossible Man's favorite partners are Order Marker flex (though that's hard to come by as an Event Hero) and movement stoppers like Blob and Jean Grey. If he can finagle things to make figures stuck in engagement with him, he has a shot. If he can't, he's pretty "meh."

Still, for his offense to mostly rely on a 16+ roll and to have such defensive vulnerability mixed in makes him a tough pick at 430 points. If you can hit 16+ consistently, a lot of other figures do a lot nastier things. And 430 points has a lot more reliable tanks.

Impossible Man: 2/C-

[Ronin]

Awesome Andy is pretty solid with Enchantress II. She wants him adjacent anyhow, and he can copy MD on top of the Weak Minded bonus making her bonding a lot more reliable.

I don't play Impossible Man much, but I assume the strategy is to supply your own Scientists/Adventurers for easy power copy targets, since his copy works on friendlies. Probably tough to integrate into a lot of paper builds with the Event Hero status though.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Gale Force Exhale is definitely in that same boat of Superman where like... moving dudes is cool and all... but rarely worth giving up a turn for.

Lot more palatable on a cheaper figure as an extra option though.

I'd be more into Awesome Andy if his life was a bit higher. Everything else about him is so conditional that I'd just want him to be able to play the generic groundpounder role a bit better.

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Impossible Man I just struggle to see what to do with him. But I think that's the case with a lot of Event Heroes that aren't one man armies or providing syngergy themselves.

Gundams cant ignore him so... idk maybe he's a counter draft now

But honestly Gundam pilots having "cant stop trying to murder things for like 2 seconds" as a weakness is thematic, so it works.