Create-A-Unit 2: Part 2 - Purpose Discussion

[Lamaclown]

Originally Posted by gorthan313

THAT is one of the reasons why I love Heroscape! There is NO racial group that does not have both a figure that people think needs to be countered with a broad ability like that, AND a figure or two that would also have their ratings SERIOUSLY damaged from that type of thing.

I see the logic in what you are saying. For this reason, I like the idea of strengthening a group of figs that see little action, i.e. Lawmen (although I have made "dragonslayers" a la Nhah Scirh).

With the speculation of Native American warriors being in Wave 9, I think giving the Lawmen a boost before its release might be good.

[johnny139]

Originally Posted by GeneralGrievous13

A great reason to make a Dragon Master:

The Dragons are some of the biggest and most powerful units in Heroscape. When someone drafts a Dragon, I immediately check to see who in my army has a good chance of beating it. Often, the only hope is using Sir. Denrick or another Dragon. But if you don't have enough points to get your own Dragon and Sir. Denrick is on another team, then what do you do?

The answer is that you either kill the Dragon with other units (often after losing a large part of your army) or you get the stuffing beat out of you! That is why I think there should be a Dragon Master (EDIT: or Dragon Slayer); a unit that is strong enough to counter a Dragon, but also less expensive than drafting your own Dragon.

So, a Dragon Countering Hero is what you're going for? I'll make the necessary adjustments.

Originally Posted by Elginb

I don't think my earlier suggestion was taken seriously, but I'd really like to see a unit that boosts melee units in general against ranged units. Most Warriors are meless units (excepting only the Marro Warriors, I think), so maybe a unit that grants Warriors some limited form of disengagement. The whole great-ape-with-smoke-screen part isn't important, but it would be nice to get a figure that helps melee units get past those confounded rats...

So, a Melee Boosting/Anti-Range Hero? Yeah, I could go for that. It's on the list.

Originally Posted by Rich10

For a single figure, I'd rather see a Q9/rats counter. Maybe a Meriedian with an EMP generator that would freeze soulborgs for a couple of turns would work. As is, the soulborgs aren't affected by several attacks (plague and chilling touch come to mind). It would seem reasonable that there could be an attack that would be specific to soulborgs.

And is this a counter-soulborg? Also interesting.




The current list is...

• A Hero to Boost the Primadons
• A Counter-Dragon Hero
• A Vampire Hunter
• A Support Hero for the Lawmen
• An Utgar Cowboy
• A Melee Booster/Range Counter-er
• A Counter-Soulborg Hero

That's seven - and we still have a day left! Hoo-rah!

[clancampbell]

I'm all for an Armoc Warlord. For that matter, any warlord for Ullar to bond with the Armoc vipers. As it sits, they can only bond with Mittens, they need at least one other option.

[GeneralGrievous13]

Originally Posted by johnny139

So, a Dragon Countering Hero is what you're going for? I'll make the necessary adjustments.

Actually, I am suggesting either a Dragon Slayer (counter) or a Dragon Master (helper or bonder).

I think that it is great that we have so many cool ideas on our list! I think that any one of them would make a great custom hero. Great work everyone!

[Creationist]

To give credit where crdit is due, rich10 was the one to be quoted, not me. Its small, but still he should get the credit.

[Zyelos]

Elginb- I don't think my earlier suggestion was taken seriously, but I'd really like to see a unit that boosts melee units in general against ranged units. Most Warriors are meless units (excepting only the Marro Warriors, I think), so maybe a unit that grants Warriors some limited form of disengagement. The whole great-ape-with-smoke-screen part isn't important, but it would be nice to get a figure that helps melee units get past those confounded rats...

Perhaps a defence minded wizard with barrier spells to protect his warrior friends. Wizards and Warriors do often make a great team.

Ive also heard disscussion of a Dragon Master or Slayer, but what of a Dragon Rider..... just something to think about.

[Rich10]

Originally Posted by Zyelos

Ive also heard disscussion of a Dragon Master or Slayer, but what of a Dragon Rider..... just something to think about.

Like Su-Bak-Na?

[gorthan313]

Originally Posted by Rich10

Like Su-Bak-Na?

I think that Zyelos means someone who can ride dragons. The power might function something like Carry, but it would be on the rider's card.

[EagleOne]

I love the undead cowboy idea, Primadon King Kong type, and the counter soulborg

Of course we could combine them and have an undead Primadon Hacker.

Some ideas to kick the tires on:
-A ranged human champion (Robin Hood-esque, or viking axe chucker)
-An animal (Lion, Bear, Scorpion...)
-Raelin-type that bonds and helps melee (Elginb's suggestion)
-Anti-range (4th Mass, Stingers, 10th foot, Q9, etc.)
-Giant Robo-Cat to get rid of Robo-Rats (pouncing ability)

[Pumpkin_King]

I think instead of targeting Soulborgs as a rat-counter, I'd like it if it targeted Small figures. Maybe he can spray a low-lying acidic smoke that'll irritate the larger figures, but be deadly to the small ones.

I just don't like abilities that counter races, is all...

EDIT: I just realized I described an household pest exterminator.

[Rich10]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King

I think instead of targeting Soulborgs as a rat-counter, I'd like it if it targeted Small figures. Maybe he can spray a low-lying acidic smoke that'll irritate the larger figures, but be deadly to the small ones.

I just don't like abilities that counter races, is all...

EDIT: I just realized I described an household pest exterminator.

I understand what you are saying, but the soulborgs are immune to certain attacks (chilling touch, marro plague, toxic skin). If this hero were a Mariedian, it would make sense that they would have an attack that would only target soulborgs. I'd like this to target the Q's (and/or rats). I just think that they are too powerful. I was thinking that EMP (which wouldn't affect non-soulborg figures) would be a special attack (determined through rolling D20) and might inflict one wound. But this special attack would not affect a figure with only one life remaining (so it wouldn't affect the DW's, trons, rats or one of the Q's, X17 or Warden with only one life left). Another way to do this would be for the EMP to freeze a soulborg for 2 (or so) turns. During this time, the soulborg would lose any turns and be subject to any attacks (possibly with reduced defense).

[Pumpkin_King]

Pfft. Easy. It's simply acidic enough that it melts metal. Organic viruses and magical cold don't effect metal, but this acidic gas will.