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Old November 11th, 2021, 03:59 PM
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

I was going more for classic Tom, but I doubt he'd get another version so I think it's definitely fair to represent his plant stuff. Either of these two would be good depending on how hard we wanna hit the regenerating plant-person angle.

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BARK SKIN DEFENSE
When rolling defense dice against a special attack, you may count one blank rolled as an automatic shield. If Black Tom rolled any excess shields and the attacking figure is adjacent, you may remove one Wound Marker from this card.
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Up Life from 4 to 5 and
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BARK SKIN DURABILITY
When rolling defense dice against a special attack, Black Tom Cassidy always add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
Also whatever happens, his Defense could be lowered from 5 to 4, since he's getting a defensive power and he wants to be adjacent to trees.
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Old November 11th, 2021, 04:04 PM
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

Maybe it's just me not being totally up on the character in general, but I'd rather just see a classic Tom than having him absorb characteristics from later versions. He's actually been a pretty big deal with the Krakoa stuff, so a second version isn't as strange as it seems.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

I mean I don't mind representing it, his second power could be interpreted as him using the trees in a more planty way on top of just a larger blast.

I think he's firing from the trees here?

But I could see a Krakoa version of him later on too yeah.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

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I was going more for classic Tom, but I doubt he'd get another version so I think it's definitely fair to represent his plant stuff.
I'd just stick with one era of the character over lumping different ones together. Just makes for cleaner designs.

Someone will eventually make the other one, in a world with Leg Swap Mirror Master all things are possible.


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I was going more for classic Tom, but I doubt he'd get another version so I think it's definitely fair to represent his plant stuff.
I'd just stick with one era of the character over lumping different ones together. Just makes for cleaner designs.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

Okidoke.

Well for a third, maybe the same thing, but with a more reusable title, since it's basically Tough for SAs.
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When rolling defense dice against a special attack, Black Tom Cassidy always add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
(with the option for just asn additional die, or shield on blank depending how good we want it to be).

or maybe something like this
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If Black Tom Cassidy destroys a Student or Citizen figure, you must roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 13 or higher, remove any Order Markers on Black Tom's Partner in Crime's Army Card and choose an opponent to take control of that figure and its card.
or like -5 to initiative or something, wording could be better.

Or he could just be a two power, I'm not entirely sure what else I would put and it's been a minute since I've seen a simpler two power card. Wouldn't be out of place in the brotherhood and part of why I wanted to run him is he feels like one of those characters old school C3G would have tackled, but didn't get around to for whatever reason.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

Yeah, I'd definitely avoid giving a figure to an opponent, especially if his optimal pair is meant to be a 340 pt. Juggernaut.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

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NAME = BLACK TOM CASSIDY
SECRET IDENTITY = THOMAS CASSIDY

SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = OUTCAST
PERSONALITY = FLAGRANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 160


OUTCAST PARTNER IN CRIME
At the start of the game you may choose a Unique Outcast Hero in your army. For the rest of the game, both Black Tom Cassidy and the chosen Hero have the class of Criminal in addition to what is listed on their cards. Before taking a turn with Black Tom Cassidy, you may take a turn with the chosen Hero. After taking a turn with Black Tom Cassidy and that Hero, you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.

THERMOKINETIC BLAST SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.
Choose a figure to attack. If Black Tom is adjacent to an Evergreen Tree or Jungle Piece, any figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the Thermokinetic Blast Special Attack. Roll 3 attack dice once for all affected figures.

ROUGH/ROUGH AND TUMBLE
When rolling defense dice against a special attack, Black Tom Cassidy always add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
How's this then? : )

If he playtests at over 160, there'd be the choice of either dropping down his life or Rough Sort.

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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

I guess I still don't see the huge appeal with the before/after turn bonding? It doesn't seem like there's a huge mechanical benefit, so I'd just pick one or the other.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

Agreed.

Hmm, as for "tough against special attacks," not sure the title is selling me on the theme of that yet. My concern is that's the type of power we'd want to be pretty reusable, I think. So what exactly makes someone thematically tough against special attacks that could be a common thread enough to make into the power title there?

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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

In that case I'd have Juggernaut go first and pave a way.
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OUTCAST PARTNER IN CRIME
At the start of the game you may choose a Unique Outcast Hero in your army. For the rest of the game, both Black Tom Cassidy and the chosen Hero have the class of Criminal in addition to what is listed on their cards. Before taking a turn with Black Tom Cassidy, you may take a turn with the chosen Hero. After taking a turn with Black Tom Cassidy and that Hero, you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
I thought Rough Sort was a fun name, similar to Shrug It Off on Deathstroke and fitting for Black Tom in particular. I'm open to any other name ideas.
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Re: The Book of Black Tom Cassidy - Breathing

Like he lost to Banshee in fisticuffs, but shrugs off most elemental or powery attacks. Like I said earlier though, if there's not a strong enough catch for it, I'd be fine with a two power.
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