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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
The Vote That Maybe Didn't Pass isn't as punchy as some.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
Planning on running him in a Sin Six build twice, but shaking up the kind of army he's up against. Let me know if there's something else you'd rather see.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
Honestly I found S6 to be one of the less effective builds for him. I think you said it somewhere; his Shark-y nature means he wants more activations per round than Ock usually gives. It’s not the worst army ever by any stretch, but I don’t think it’s his 100% optimal competitive build. Maybe like...1 S6 game and 1 LexCorp game or something like that?
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
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EDIT: Might go for Suicide Squad, looking over what you ran? Really spoiled for choice with Criminal stuff. Last edited by Ronin; January 12th, 2020 at 11:53 AM. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Venom (Mac Donald) Army Test Map: Custom Units: Venom, Red Skull (Hasbro), Iron Monger (665) VS Spider-Man (C3G), Falcon, Groot (Adult) (665)
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Custom Units: Venom, Green Goblin, Doc Ock I (690) VS Cyclops I, Storm I, Wolverine (690)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Venom offers a lot of offense and speed with an average amount of defense, so he can go down quickly. He worked a lot better in my second game, saving him for after I had some heroes already in the fray so fire wasn’t focused on Venom. Cannibal Craving is hard to activate but fun and very powerful when it does. This is a simple design so I don’t think there are major competitive concerns, and the points seem fairly close to me considering the opposite results in each game. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
Awesome, thanks Archie!
I'm fine with him being a bit fragile (relative to his weight class, at least.) And hopefully the eventual addition of Sinister Spider-Man will leave the character feeling more long-lasting as well. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Venom (Mac Gargan) @245 points (playtested against LV) Army Test Map: Ivy's Greenhouse Units: Venom (Mac Gargan), Amanda Waller, Rick Flag, Vulture, Deadshot, Purple Man, Scarlet Spiders (1100) vs Lady Shiva, Cheshire, Elektra, Scarlet Spider (Kaine), Hand Ninja x4 (1100)
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Ivy's Greenhouse Units: Venom (Mac Gargan), Amanda Waller, Rick Flag, Vulture, Deadshot, Purple Man, Scarlet Spiders (1100) vs Graviton, Red Skull, Baron Zemo (Heinrich), Angel (Warren), Blob, Lurker (1100)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: So... a couple weird games where Venom wasn't the biggest deal (though he could have been bigger in that first game if he hadn't turned on the Squad and been prematurely killed). He does feel fun, though. He's an intimidating, sharky figure that can dash across the map. With all the road on Ivy's Greenhouse and Rick Flag helping him out, he was crazy fast. He only ended up doing it once or twice, but he's also fun for Rick Flag to move just to trigger Collateral Damage. Definitely felt like Gargan's Venom to me. Unfortunately I'm not sure these games speak hugely to his balance (beyond him being a great target for both enemy and friendly movement powers), but I like the feel of him. Worth also getting input from LV, who played the enemy teams in these games. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
He's definitely great fun to play against when you have things that can move him. He can feel like a bit of a nightmare if you've got lots of squads, as he has the life and defense to stay fairly sturdy against them and can devour his way back to healing. Maneuverability was surprising as well. Dude can clear the map pretty quick.
Worth noting that the bigger flub in game two was my failure to remember I had retaken the cube with angel and could have wiped Purple Man out. Bad call that cost me the game. Venom wasn't nearly as big a player that game as was my inability to hurt Purple Man. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
So by my count that's 3 losses, 3 wins, and 1 really big win that probably would've been different if units were played more accurately.
I'm okay with moving ahead with these current results, but I would understand if we felt one more set of tests was needed. |
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (Public Playtesting)
Pre-yea for Final Editing.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Venom (Mac Gargan) (VOTE for Final Editing)
Yea
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